Vulpes Inculta Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) Bring back 2 weight fungi and 50 sheet per restart instead of 25! (maybe even a bump in price to 1400) LSD been decimated worse than the ruble. Would donate 250 as soon as this was added again fr. Edited March 4, 2022 by Vulpes Inculta BLOTTER likes this Link to comment
KrazyKnight Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 yes Vulpes Inculta likes this Link to comment
Aristant Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) Once upon a time there would be people at lsd almost all the time it was so popular, now i never hear or see anyone there, however it still carries a heavy time to get everything and process it and sell it safely. to high risk to reward, meth blows it away now adays. Edited March 3, 2022 by Aristant Vulpes Inculta likes this Link to comment
Fitz Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 Your right we should definitely have more of the population in the middle of a field with no interaction with anybody and no chance of APD interaction because we can’t out of Athira or a fed channel long enough to fly out there. Vulpes Inculta likes this Link to comment
Defragments Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 LSD sell price about halved, weight increased to 3 from 2 and it only processes 25 per restart instead of 50 now. It's not even worth looking at in the current state. While I'm here, purification factory is traaaaash too. Who wants to drive their meth all the way out there for an extra process? Way too much risk. Vulpes Inculta likes this Link to comment
|Cam| Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 drugs are bad mmmkay Vulpes Inculta, Ryan. and Donald like this Link to comment
Don Julio Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 make everything good again lol BLOTTER and Vulpes Inculta like this Link to comment
Patato Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Vulpes Inculta said: Bring back 2 weight fungi and 50 sheet per restart instead of 25! (maybe even a bump in price to 1400) LSD been decimated worse than the ruble. Would donate 250 as soon as this was added again fr. Is this guy really trying to flex $250 to get what he wants? @Mitch (IFRIT)Ey bro next patch i got you $250 ez D A N E, Farmer Steve, MoLu. and 1 other like this Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 I rather a different drug be buffed Vulpes Inculta likes this Link to comment
Vanilla Coke Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 hours ago, P.FitzWallace said: Your right we should definitely have more of the population in the middle of a field with no interaction with anybody and no chance of APD interaction because we can’t out of Athira or a fed channel long enough to fly out there. Isn't Dump HQ like 1-2 km from LSD Purification and Fungi? Just die twice at the fed and respawn up there, no need to fly a heli or spawn in Athira. Vulpes Inculta likes this Link to comment
Henry Facesmasher Posted March 3, 2022 Report Share Posted March 3, 2022 I wish there was a way to add more housing up there to give other people more of a chance. I just want to kill people at lsd again. I swear mitch.. i won't slingload hmmt's full of sheets upon sheets upon sheets... ever again... just buff the price so i can kill people from the safety of my own house because im a shitter Vulpes Inculta likes this Link to comment
Vulpes Inculta Posted March 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Patato said: Is this guy really trying to flex $250 to get what he wants? @Mitch (IFRIT)Ey bro next patch i got you $250 ez I would accept making LSD just decent again at this point lol. Also would shout your name from the highest of mountains for eternity. Edited March 4, 2022 by Vulpes Inculta Link to comment
cynikburst Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 yes what this guy said Vulpes Inculta likes this Link to comment
Patato Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Vulpes Inculta said: I would accept making LSD just decent again at this point lol. Also would shout your name from the highest of mountains for eternity. I have to say this thread is an interesting read, Three months ago we had suggestions saying to nerf the very things you guys are all talking about. And from what i can tell from the logs they were correct. My argument would be that it is decent. Objectively its better than heroin. You also have the option of ageing it at basically no risk for a bit more cash. (The house upgrade is a bit expensive). But LSD was printing money to the point where players were shooting up millions of dollars by just no life LSD from midnight to 6am. Income across the board has been decreased from mining to Meth. Our economy was quickly ballooning due to quets/domination/LSD/Double processed drugs/house weed. The effects can be seen from the housing market and the explosive prices (Sui/phone ect) that were set before i came back, Continue the way we were going and the only option was either wipe the server or add a 0 on to everything you could buy. Asylum by and large still has way better methods of making money than what was ever available 3-4 years ago. And the rate at cash in the economy has accelerated supports that. Also@DefragmentsPurification isn't trash, just a flat out false statement. Guys have found very efficient ways to make blue Meth for very little risk. I don't want to give up their secrets but i can tell you its not like they just wait until 2am to their runs. infact from what ive seen mathematically its the most efficent possible money making on asylum. I will admit most are established players with a 3-4 houses to their name but they are quickly shooting up the money list. And this isnt all to say the numbers are perfect. Its constantly monitored and adjusted as needed. But change is not an instant thing, players take time to adjust so its not like i change somthing and all of a sudden everyone is doing it. Any of the top richest are easily the most adaptable players who take full advantage of any change made to make their time as efficent as possible (Except for leroy who just brute forces it by not spending a penny on anything) Farmer Steve, Vulpes Inculta and D A N E like this Link to comment
Defragments Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Patato said: Also@DefragmentsPurification isn't trash, just a flat out false statement. Guys have found very efficient ways to make blue Meth for very little risk. I don't want to give up their secrets but i can tell you its not like they just wait until 2am to their runs. infact from what ive seen mathematically its the most efficent possible money making on asylum. At least in comparison to how it was before. I was set up to run meth before. Processing it a second time is pretty out of the question for me now. The risk is too high for the reward. Regular meth is $1800 each I think. Heisenberg is like $2450? It's not a good price, but the risk part is too much in my opinion at least. I wouldn't drive meth from any of my current houses all the way out there. But then again, I wouldn't take meth that far away from the meth lab at all unless it was to sell it. Link to comment
Patato Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, Defragments said: At least in comparison to how it was before. I was set up to run meth before. Processing it a second time is pretty out of the question for me now. The risk is too high for the reward. Regular meth is $1800 each I think. Heisenberg is like $2450? It's not a good price, but the risk part is too much in my opinion at least. I wouldn't drive meth from any of my current houses all the way out there. But then again, I wouldn't take meth that far away from the meth lab at all unless it was to sell it. I mean not to be a dick here. But just because its not worth YOUR time. Doesn't mean plenty of other people aren't using every mechanic at their disposal to run it efficently. Again im really trying to not screw over the incredibly brilliant players who are using mechanics in a way that i would have never thought. but i can tell you if you are thinking about driving into purification with a hemmtt you have already done it wrong. If the issue in your chain is transportation think of other way to get items efficiently across the map. Link to comment
Defragments Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 Just now, Patato said: I mean not to be a dick here. But just because its not worth YOUR time. Doesn't mean plenty of other people aren't using every mechanic at their disposal to run it efficently. Again im really trying to not screw over the incredibly brilliant players who are using mechanics in a way that i would have never thought. but i can tell you if you are thinking about driving into purification with a hemmtt you have already done it wrong. I know. I haven't even been to the processor since it was added. Why do I have a sneaking suspicion it's gonna be tents though. Link to comment
Vulpes Inculta Posted March 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, Patato said: I have to say this thread is an interesting read, Three months ago we had suggestions saying to nerf the very things you guys are all talking about. And from what i can tell from the logs they were correct. My argument would be that it is decent. Objectively its better than heroin. You also have the option of ageing it at basically no risk for a bit more cash. (The house upgrade is a bit expensive). But LSD was printing money to the point where players were shooting up millions of dollars by just no life LSD from midnight to 6am. Income across the board has been decreased from mining to Meth. Our economy was quickly ballooning due to quets/domination/LSD/Double processed drugs/house weed. The effects can be seen from the housing market and the explosive prices (Sui/phone ect) that were set before i came back, Continue the way we were going and the only option was either wipe the server or add a 0 on to everything you could buy. Asylum by and large still has way better methods of making money than what was ever available 3-4 years ago. And the rate at cash in the economy has accelerated supports that. Also@DefragmentsPurification isn't trash, just a flat out false statement. Guys have found very efficient ways to make blue Meth for very little risk. I don't want to give up their secrets but i can tell you its not like they just wait until 2am to their runs. infact from what ive seen mathematically its the most efficent possible money making on asylum. I will admit most are established players with a 3-4 houses to their name but they are quickly shooting up the money list. And this isnt all to say the numbers are perfect. Its constantly monitored and adjusted as needed. But change is not an instant thing, players take time to adjust so its not like i change somthing and all of a sudden everyone is doing it. Any of the top richest are easily the most adaptable players who take full advantage of any change made to make their time as efficent as possible (Except for leroy who just brute forces it by not spending a penny on anything) I think the changes to balance the server are great in their own ways... I just think the entry fee is too high for newer players. If ran as pills its virtually worthless without a lead container and a lead container is a big investment for newer players to get started. Couple that with the fact the they are only turning 25 per restart now = longer time on return for said player to make money back on this investment. At the current rate of investment it would take 350,000/1200 = 291 sheets which would be 11.6 restarts to achieve. 11.6 restarts at 240 mins is 46.4 hours passed if logging in each restart, thus taking over 2 days realistically to achieve ROI on this. I think in order to make LSD a more realistic drug worth running again 2 changes could be made that would not inflate the economy of the server drastically. 1. Make LSD pills processable at purification: this would give a alternate use for pills without a lead crate with an added risk vs waiting the lead crate out or for new players to get a foot into LSD pre lead crate. 2. Also increase the amount of sheets produced to 50 again and increase the cost of the crate to 500k for balance on investment if players want a safer method of production. Defragments likes this Link to comment
Paradox_ Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 broke ass still farming in 2022 Farmer Steve and Infamous [FULL SEND] like this Link to comment
Henry Facesmasher Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 47 minutes ago, Patato said: But LSD was printing money to the point where players were shooting up millions of dollars by just no life LSD from midnight to 6am. Income across the board has been decreased from mining to Meth. Our economy was quickly ballooning due to quets/domination/LSD/Double processed drugs/house weed. The effects can be seen from the housing market and the explosive prices (Sui/phone ect) that were set before i came back, Continue the way we were going and the only option was either wipe the server or add a 0 on to everything you could buy. Asylum by and large still has way better methods of making money than what was ever available 3-4 years ago. And the rate at cash in the economy has accelerated supports that. Also@DefragmentsPurification isn't trash, just a flat out false statement. Guys have found very efficient ways to make blue Meth for very little risk. I don't want to give up their secrets but i can tell you its not like they just wait until 2am to their runs. infact from what ive seen mathematically its the most efficent possible money making on asylum. I will admit most are established players with a 3-4 houses to their name but they are quickly shooting up the money list. Oh so printing money via blue meth is ok but god forbid certain people make a little cash on the side via LSD. For the record I have never once stayed up passed midnight running LSD like you claim. Most of our sells were at peak times on the server... There's a certain point where just making money isn't any fun. And to be honest most of us went inactive BEFORE the LSD nerf. There literally is zero point in LSD now. Might as well just call it heroin. But at least with heroin it'll be quicker. Link to comment
Patato Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Henry Facesmasher said: Oh so printing money via blue meth is ok but god forbid certain people make a little cash on the side via LSD. For the record I have never once stayed up passed midnight running LSD like you claim. Most of our sells were at peak times on the server... There's a certain point where just making money isn't any fun. And to be honest most of us went inactive BEFORE the LSD nerf. There literally is zero point in LSD now. Might as well just call it heroin. But at least with heroin it'll be quicker. They are minimizing risks by doing things efficiently with a mechanic i didn't expect to be that important. Who says i don't have a change on the way to address it? And your point is terrible. So you quit the server and went inactive because you had made too much money and the server became boring? Zero point in LSD yet people still do it.? ok i guess Vulpes Inculta likes this Link to comment
Vulpes Inculta Posted March 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, Patato said: They are minimizing risks by doing things efficiently with a mechanic i didn't expect to be that important. Who says i don't have a change on the way to address it? And your point is terrible. So you quit the server and went inactive because you had made too much money and the server became boring? Zero point in LSD yet people still do it.? ok i guess So what do you think would be wrong with the optimizations I recommended above? I would be fully willing to help figure out any adjustments to make it work if needed. Link to comment
Patato Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vulpes Inculta said: So what do you think would be wrong with the optimizations I recommended above? I would be fully willing to help figure out any adjustments to make it work if needed. Why not just reduce the cost? Vulpes Inculta likes this Link to comment
Vulpes Inculta Posted March 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Patato said: Why not just reduce the cost? It would work to reduce the cost of the crate to an extent, but in my opinion, I think making pills be processable at purification would bring a lot more value as a whole. Since it not only brings more risk to purification with the increased traffic, it give the guys who wanna risk it a chance to make money faster than waiting for their lead crates to process. I think this alone would bring a tremendous amount of attention to LSD and give players a chance to make money early on. Seeing as how this change wouldn't be changing the actual sale price at all, since it would just increase the speed in which you can possibly attain your sheets, there shouldn't be a tremendous boost in income that would lead to a imbalance in drugs, since it's just giving players a opportunity to get their investment faster vs an actual increase in the value of the product, this resulting in the same amount of money introduced into the economy at just a slightly increased rate, which may also be counter balanced by the introduced risk of losing your product due to increased traffic at these drug areas and the risk of purification. As far as crates even just a boost to say 35 -40 sheets per restart with a relative increase in lead crate price would make the grind more appealing in order to obtain a lead crate and also add value back to doing LSD. It could be said that people still do LSD in its current state yes, but in it's current state it's very few and far in between compared to it's pre-nurf glory. Link to comment
Henry Facesmasher Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Patato said: They are minimizing risks by doing things efficiently with a mechanic i didn't expect to be that important. Who says i don't have a change on the way to address it? And your point is terrible. So you quit the server and went inactive because you had made too much money and the server became boring? Zero point in LSD yet people still do it.? ok i guess You missed the point completely. But I understand. As long as your friends make good money that's all that matters. Vulpes Inculta likes this Link to comment
Patato Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, Henry Facesmasher said: You missed the point completely. But I understand. As long as your friends make good money that's all that matters. If i wanted my friends to have money id just put it on their account... Vulpes Inculta likes this Link to comment
Vulpes Inculta Posted March 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Henry Facesmasher said: You missed the point completely. But I understand. As long as your friends make good money that's all that matters. This is about the betterment and liberation of fungi, which has grown tired of oppression. This movement is supported by the international association of freedom & liberation of fungi (IAFLF). Edited March 4, 2022 by Vulpes Inculta Link to comment
Infamous [FULL SEND] Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Patato said: infact from what ive seen mathematically its the most efficent possible money making on asylum. running feds all day = more than 10 mil into economy, Domination can also make more money. you're statement here is just false mr patato. Vulpes Inculta likes this Link to comment
Patato Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Infamous [FULL SEND] said: running feds all day = more than 10 mil into economy, Domination can also make more money. you're statement here is just false mr patato. Fair point. But you have to be able to left click for that. which im in capable of Vulpes Inculta likes this Link to comment
Infamous [FULL SEND] Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Patato said: Fair point. But you have to be able to left click for that. which im in capable of neither are you capable of putting a damn loadout menu on toms yacht Vulpes Inculta and Donald like this Link to comment
Vulpes Inculta Posted March 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Patato said: Fair point. But you have to be able to left click for that. which im in capable of I will continue to get the support of the people. There are fungi and cave loves far and wide who support such a motion. Link to comment
Vulpes Inculta Posted March 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 @PatatoCan we get a poll added to this to see the consensus? Link to comment
Patato Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Vulpes Inculta said: @PatatoCan we get a poll added to this to see the consensus? Uh, you have the edit button my guy. I got no perms around here as dev lol. Link to comment
Vulpes Inculta Posted March 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Patato said: Uh, you have the edit button my guy. I got no perms around here as dev lol. Ahh I see. Poll added, will reconvene shortly lol. Link to comment
D A N E Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 On 3/3/2022 at 3:37 PM, Defragments said: LSD sell price about halved, weight increased to 3 from 2 and it only processes 25 per restart instead of 50 now. It's not even worth looking at in the current state. While I'm here, purification factory is traaaaash too. Who wants to drive their meth all the way out there for an extra process? Way too much risk. Exactly what it’s built for, extra work for extra money. Link to comment
Defragments Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, D A N E said: Exactly what it’s built for, extra work for extra money. It was already extra work. You had to stay at the meth lab or wherever you were for even longer. Link to comment
Cowboy Justin Posted March 5, 2022 Report Share Posted March 5, 2022 MAKE LSD GREAT AGAIN! Defragments, Ryan. and Vulpes Inculta like this Link to comment
Vulpes Inculta Posted March 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Cowboy Justin said: MAKE LSD GREAT AGAIN! Link to comment
Defragments Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 Imagine roleplaying as a cartel that runs LSD and then it getting nerfed because of us T_T Henry Facesmasher likes this Link to comment
Vulpes Inculta Posted March 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Defragments said: Imagine roleplaying as a cartel that runs LSD and then it getting nerfed because of us T_T I think these changes are very fair seeing as how the prices is still gonna be the same, just getting your sheets faster. Link to comment
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