We’re Not Finished: Rebuilding Asylum for the Community

[Steve]

On 10/16/2024 at 4:46 PM, Hoodlum Priest said:

Focusing on the RP player base was this servers only hope. The cartel players dont really care about the server and the "community"....they just want the PVP. Their egos get involved, then they start cheating......wash rinse repeat.

Im hoping you guys get this figured out. Yes it is an 11 year old game......but there still is nothing else like it.
 

 

I never really came to Asylum for the RP. A very very small percentage of the fun I have had here was through RP beyond "hands up or die." I wasn't limited to cartel fighting by any means, but it was a large part of what I did and I loved and still love this community. However, you are right when you say that egos got involved but it was less with cartels and more with domination.

I would equate domination/conquest/whatever the other servers have to DDT. For those who don't know DDT was an insecticide used in America and the rest of the world. It was very dangerous for your long term health and caused birth defects and a host of other problems. However, what it did do was kill insects incredibly effectively for long periods of time. It was so efficient that it virtually wiped out malaria ridden mosquitoes in the United states. In my opinion that is a net positive, as malaria is one of the biggest killers world wide. My point being Domination/conquest was a net positive. It kept the community alive when it likely would have otherwise failed. That being said, at the same time it ended up being a huge factor in what diminished Asylums player base into competitive ego filled kids with montages. It's not the main reason we have a dying community, but it is a big one.

[Fried Rice]

16 minutes ago, Steve said:

I never really came to Asylum for the RP. A very very small percentage of the fun I have had here was through RP beyond "hands up or die." I wasn't limited to cartel fighting by any means, but it was a large part of what I did and I loved and still love this community. However, you are right when you say that egos got involved but it was less with cartels and more with domination.

I would equate domination/conquest/whatever the other servers have to DDT. For those who don't know DDT was an insecticide used in America and the rest of the world. It was very dangerous for your long term health and caused birth defects and a host of other problems. However, what it did do was kill insects incredibly effectively for long periods of time. It was so efficient that it virtually wiped out malaria ridden mosquitoes in the United states. In my opinion that is a net positive, as malaria is one of the biggest killers world wide. My point being Domination/conquest was a net positive. It kept the community alive when it likely would have otherwise failed. That being said, at the same time it ended up being a huge factor in what diminished Asylums player base into competitive ego filled kids with montages. It's not the main reason we have a dying community, but it is a big one.

[Gamer4LifeHQ]

With 20 days left, what do you say the odds are about getting another Dev leak? Perhaps another one when we only have 10 days left? @Fitz

[OB1]

is asylum comin back for real?

[Wrekz]

Don't punish people for grinding the server and maybe they'll stay

[Wutang]

6 hours ago, Wrekz said:

Don't punish people for grinding the server and maybe they'll stay

The server was low pop before the wipe 

[pan fried]

1 hour ago, Wutang said:

The server was low pop before the wipe 

because they added grind on top of the grind then said they understand that people dont want to grind just to wipe so that people could grind again nerfing every good money maker so the grind would be more grindey ...

all because of what they were told by career cop retards that dont have to grind in the first place ...

 

first thing they should do before 22nd is remove Acceptable

[Fitz]

21 hours ago, Gamer4LifeHQ said:

With 20 days left, what do you say the odds are about getting another Dev leak? Perhaps another one when we only have 10 days left? @Fitz

We'll post a full patch notes here in probably around a week to keep you guys up to date with where we are 

[Wutang]

22 hours ago, pan fried said:

first thing they should do before 22nd is remove Acceptable

+1

[Despair]

Your guys' lack of communication is why this server is dead. Radio silence after the wipe, and radio silence now. Nothing has changed—continual promises to improve and address issues like this, but a serious lack of follow-through. This post was made on October 8th, and a month later we’ve seen no updates, no proof of change, or any clear direction on what the community is waiting for. You’re asking all of us to work with you and wait, but again, no communication.

The server was wiped against the advice of the majority of the player base, and now we’re backpedaling, yet the problem still isn’t fixed. No one cares about money and stats when the entire housing market—something people spent years grinding for—is gone. I joined at the start of 2023, I believe (can’t remember exactly), and personally, I have absolutely no drive or interest to play after losing my gang shed, meth houses, etc. Petty? Maybe, but that was just six months of progress. I can only imagine how the players who’ve been here for years feel.

I had hope when I first saw the post about the cancer in asylum being removed (Rogue)  but nothing has changed, and you’ve all failed to keep your word—falling short as always. Have you not learned that this lack of communication is what killed this server multiple times? The lack of interest from staff members, etc. Nothing but the same old story.

Fix the housing, or Asylum is dead. There’s no reason to come back when players can just start over on Olympus at this point. If you guys can’t bring it back, frankly, the server’s cooked—but maybe that’s for the best. The air of incompetence continues to show itself, even with the new ownership change. No updates in 30+ days? Fucking pathetic." Asylum is finished. 

Edited November 9, 2024 by Despair
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[Knight05]

12 hours ago, Despair said:

Your guys' lack of communication is why this server is dead. Radio silence after the wipe, and radio silence now. Nothing has changed—continual promises to improve and address issues like this, but a serious lack of follow-through. This post was made on October 8th, and a month later we’ve seen no updates, no proof of change, or any clear direction on what the community is waiting for. You’re asking all of us to work with you and wait, but again, no communication.

The server was wiped against the advice of the majority of the player base, and now we’re backpedaling, yet the problem still isn’t fixed. No one cares about money and stats when the entire housing market—something people spent years grinding for—is gone. I joined at the start of 2023, I believe (can’t remember exactly), and personally, I have absolutely no drive or interest to play after losing my gang shed, meth houses, etc. Petty? Maybe, but that was just six months of progress. I can only imagine how the players who’ve been here for years feel.

I had hope when I first saw the post about the cancer in asylum being removed (Rogue)  but nothing has changed, and you’ve all failed to keep your word—falling short as always. Have you not learned that this lack of communication is what killed this server multiple times? The lack of interest from staff members, etc. Nothing but the same old story.

Fix the housing, or Asylum is dead. There’s no reason to come back when players can just start over on Olympus at this point. If you guys can’t bring it back, frankly, the server’s cooked—but maybe that’s for the best. The air of incompetence continues to show itself, even with the new ownership change. No updates in 30+ days? Fucking pathetic." Asylum is finished. 

100% Been saying it for weeks now. Staff excuse = what do you want us to post that we are working on stuff each week, what's the point? Literally show screenshots of the new content ideas for feedback, video snippets of how new  stuff would work etc. Literally fucking anything...  It takes 5-10 mins to post a weekly update. But no they're going to follow the same trend they do every time.

We promise to no longer keep you guys in the dark ever again. As we keep everyone in the dark and go completely radio silent.

We promise to upload preliminary patch notes like a week before the server opens again that way when you complain we don't have time to tweak or fix anything. Oh you hate these ideas and the stuff we changed/added is stupid because we didn't involve the community like usual for feedback and discussion?  No problem we can just use the next planned content patch cycle to fix the original shit we did that you all hate and undo everything we spent a month+ working on because we are retarded and its far easier to delay adding new stuff versus going back and changing everything we did the first time.

We didn't include the community because we know better and what's best for the server even though we don't even play the game ourselves and our server is dead but it's not our fault clearly it's the player base not the leadership.

Everyone is quitting the server again because there's no meaningful content you all asked for or want and we added a bunch of stuff nobody asked for that is retarded instead? Nah that's clearly not it. It must be mid terms, holiday break, Trump winning the election, covid, global warming etc etc.

 

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. *rolls eyes*

 

[Fried Rice]

12 hours ago, Despair said:

The server was wiped against the advice of the majority of the player base, and now we’re backpedaling, yet the problem still isn’t fixed. No one cares about money and stats when the entire housing market—something people spent years grinding for—is gone. I joined at the start of 2023, I believe (can’t remember exactly), and personally, I have absolutely no drive or interest to play after losing my gang shed, meth houses, etc. Petty? Maybe, but that was just six months of progress. I can only imagine how the players who’ve been here for years feel.

The server wasn't wiped against the majority of the player base, the only people against it were the people who had millions and millions of dollars and never spent any. I'm not sure what they are doing with houses, I think they are reverting them back to pre wipe so everyone can quit crying about their min maxed virtual house setups. I've been here since 2015 and had the most fun on the month of wipe that I've had in years and so did a lot of other people. The same thing is going to happen once it reverts, people are going to come back with millions and perfect houses and sit in a city and VR chat all day. The wipe was not the cause of the pop decline, it was the lack of patches and ownership presence. I don't know why everyone wants updates and words of affirmation, aren't you tired of the server that cried wolf? Wouldn't you rather just wait till November 22nd and either be surprised and excited and impressed with the new ownership or move on with your life? At this point only actions will rebuild the trust of the community, not a sneak peak or more promises that fall through. 

 

[pan fried]

12 minutes ago, Fried Rice said:

The server wasn't wiped against the majority of the player base, the only people against it were the people who had millions and millions of dollars and never spent any. I'm not sure what they are doing with houses, I think they are reverting them back to pre wipe so everyone can quit crying about their min maxed virtual house setups. I've been here since 2015 and had the most fun on the month of wipe that I've had in years and so did a lot of other people. The same thing is going to happen once it reverts, people are going to come back with millions and perfect houses and sit in a city and VR chat all day. The wipe was not the cause of the pop decline, it was the lack of patches and ownership presence. I don't know why everyone wants updates and words of affirmation, aren't you tired of the server that cried wolf? Wouldn't you rather just wait till November 22nd and either be surprised and excited and impressed with the new ownership or move on with your life? At this point only actions will rebuild the trust of the community, not a sneak peak or more promises that fall through. 

 

you also had a lot of fun crying about other people having fun and yes it was the majority of active players

who you are talking about is the people that come on for 2 weeks then quit again

I gotta add you to the list

Remove Chow Mein and Acceptable before 22nd !

Edited November 9, 2024 by pan fried

[Despair]

1 hour ago, Fried Rice said:

erver wasn't wiped against the majority of the player base, the only people against it were the people who had millions and millions of dollars and never spent any. I'm not sure what they are doing with houses, I think they are reverting them back to

they aren't reverting housing back to what it was prewipe. Akula literally said so on the first page of this post on October 5th.

Akula

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Posted October 5

   On 10/5/2024 at 8:02 PM,  Maaqs said: 

Merge as in money + infamy + BH honor + vehicle/air/boat vehicles?   

Yes, anything that was wiped will be merged v2+v3. (minus houses) 

 It's been said multiple times this won't happen and it will just be a database merge of stats and money. This is why the majority of the player base has moved on to Olympus. No I wouldn't rather wait. They aren't going to create lightning in a bottle, for one simple reason. Lack of communication with the player base. If the staff team kept the community engaged with weekly updates and devlogs so the community can actively give feedback things would be different. But it's not. the more time that passes with a sore lack of communication the more people that move away from the community for good.                                                                     

 Also, someone with this attitude towards the general player base shouldn't be an admin. Here's some of your posts. You're a jackass plain and simple. 

You guys did a fed and kidnapped 3 cops out of the 7 online and still lost it. Half of your gang has been gone for years and you are all washed. It happens to all of us, no need to throw a hissy fit on the forums because you lost one event. Maybe stick to banks where you are in a defendable position for the time being.

 

 

I play asylum, the server we all play. It doesn't matter what happens on KOTH, this isn't KOTH. No offence, but put crimson in there with 12 shooters and we woulda won. You guys lose feds with x2 numbers than cops. We win feds with 1/2 the number of cops. Get real.

 

^^^^^ Instance number 9000 of fried rice comparing a gang to one of the best gangs on the server, that solely fights cartels and events to the general player base and using it as a justification for poor balancing of events. Your delusional.

 

Learn how to rip. They aren't god mode, the tail rotor takes 3 bullets to rip out. Yikes. I dont understand this. Damn I guess when someone gets admin they aren't allowed to play with their friends!

 

Its always the players that are bad that complain about the Chinese.

 

^ not true. Pretty well 80+ percent of the player base had issues with them lagging around and surviving entire mags then someone dropping you. There’s many instances and videos uploaded to prove this.

Common trend with all these posts, you think you are better than everyone else and lack the foresight to look at things from other players perspectives; let alone new players. You're completely fixed on your own personal experiences and opinions. You have an elitist attitude and shit on anyone that you think you are better then. 

Edited November 9, 2024 by Despair

[Fried Rice]

40 minutes ago, Despair said:

they aren't reverting housing back to what it was prewipe. Akula literally said so on the first page of this post on October 5th.

Akula

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Posted October 5

   On 10/5/2024 at 8:02 PM,  Maaqs said: 

Merge as in money + infamy + BH honor + vehicle/air/boat vehicles?   

Yes, anything that was wiped will be merged v2+v3. (minus houses) 

 It's been said multiple times this won't happen and it will just be a database merge of stats and money. This is why the majority of the player base has moved on to Olympus. No I wouldn't rather wait. They aren't going to create lightning in a bottle, for one simple reason. Lack of communication with the player base. If the staff team kept the community engaged with weekly updates and devlogs so the community can actively give feedback things would be different. But it's not. the more time that passes with a sore lack of communication the more people that move away from the community for good.                                                                     

 Also, someone with this attitude towards the general player base shouldn't be an admin. Here's some of your posts. You're a jackass plain and simple. 

You guys did a fed and kidnapped 3 cops out of the 7 online and still lost it. Half of your gang has been gone for years and you are all washed. It happens to all of us, no need to throw a hissy fit on the forums because you lost one event. Maybe stick to banks where you are in a defendable position for the time being.

 

 

I play asylum, the server we all play. It doesn't matter what happens on KOTH, this isn't KOTH. No offence, but put crimson in there with 12 shooters and we woulda won. You guys lose feds with x2 numbers than cops. We win feds with 1/2 the number of cops. Get real.

 

^^^^^ Instance number 9000 of fried rice comparing a gang to one of the best gangs on the server, that solely fights cartels and events to the general player base and using it as a justification for poor balancing of events. Your delusional.

 

Learn how to rip. They aren't god mode, the tail rotor takes 3 bullets to rip out. Yikes. I dont understand this. Damn I guess when someone gets admin they aren't allowed to play with their friends!

 

Its always the players that are bad that complain about the Chinese.

 

^ not true. Pretty well 80+ percent of the player base had issues with them lagging around and surviving entire mags then someone dropping you. There’s many instances and videos uploaded to prove this.

Common trend with all these posts, you think you are better than everyone else and lack the foresight to look at things from other players perspectives; let alone new players. You're completely fixed on your own personal experiences and opinions. You have an elitist attitude and shit on anyone that you think you are better then. 

All he said was the houses wont be merged, would be kind of hard to merge 3 and 5 houses into 8, take that as you will. As for removing the Chinese everyone swore that would fix pop, it made people quit because there was no one to fight in EU time. Our EU pop went from 30-40ish to 12. I don't think I'm better than everyone else, I actually think I'm a very average player along with most people in my gang, the point I'm making is everyone wants the easy route instead of simply learning how to shoot a gun and pull a mouse down. Everyone wants things spoon fed to them instead of earning it like we all did when asylum was THE number 1 server to play. 

[Despair]

35 minutes ago, Fried Rice said:

All he said was the houses wont be merged, would be kind of hard to merge 3 and 5 houses into 8, take that as you will. As for removing the Chinese everyone swore that would fix pop, it made people quit because there was no one to fight in EU time. Our EU pop went from 30-40ish to 12. I don't think I'm better than everyone else, I actually think I'm a very average player along with most people in my gang, the point I'm making is everyone wants the easy route instead of simply learning how to shoot a gun and pull a mouse down. Everyone wants things spoon fed to them instead of earning it like we all did when asylum was THE number 1 server to play. 

Everyone wants things spoon fed to them instead of earning it like we all did when asylum was THE number 1 server to play.  > I agree with this to an extent, but when you make comments like the ones I posted in my last post (which were all said by you.) You make people not want to go through the learning curve. I played for 6+ months because I became a even remotely decent player; one of the hardest things was keeping the drive to consistently play, when people like yourself are constantly spouting off and trashing other players because they aren't as good as you or your buddies. Most of your gang mates specifically (crimson) were constantly toxic to the general player base when it came to fighting and events. I'm willing to bet a vast majority of players have quit this server because of this behaviour; especially with the high volume of admins in crimson at that time. Now this isn't me saying that asylum should be a place that panders to everyone. I'll be the first to admit; I've said and done quite a few toxic things myself.  But you guys need to have more foresight with how your actions affect the general player base; especially when admins are heavily in the mix. Which it was in the the crimson. 

Edited November 9, 2024 by Despair

[Steve]

1 hour ago, Despair said:

Everyone wants things spoon fed to them instead of earning it like we all did when asylum was THE number 1 server to play.  > I agree with this to an extent, but when you make comments like the ones I posted in my last post (which were all said by you.) You make people not want to go through the learning curve. I played for 6+ months because I became a even remotely decent player; one of the hardest things was keeping the drive to consistently play, when people like yourself are constantly spouting off and trashing other players because they aren't as good as you or your buddies. Most of your gang mates specifically (crimson) were constantly toxic to the general player base when it came to fighting and events. I'm willing to bet a vast majority of players have quit this server because of this behaviour; especially with the high volume of admins in crimson at that time. Now this isn't me saying that asylum should be a place that panders to everyone. I'll be the first to admit; I've said and done quite a few toxic things myself.  But you guys need to have more foresight with how your actions affect the general player base; especially when admins are heavily in the mix. Which it was in the the crimson. 

The main difference between the 2016ish era of Asylum and prior to that and now is we have 1 server in stead of 4. When you have 4 servers the real estate market is vastly different and its much more reasonable to buy 1-2 meth houses and make money. I know this because I my self have done it on and off for years. It is challenging nowadays to buy a house. and while you would think the server is dead at 2 am there is a pretty good shot some dude is sitting on meth lab.

[Despair]

44 minutes ago, Steve said:

The main difference between the 2016ish era of Asylum and prior to that and now is we have 1 server in stead of 4. When you have 4 servers the real estate market is vastly different and its much more reasonable to buy 1-2 meth houses and make money. I know this because I my self have done it on and off for years. It is challenging nowadays to buy a house. and while you would think the server is dead at 2 am there is a pretty good shot some dude is sitting on meth lab.

Sorry, I'm failing to see how this is relevant to my post, did you maybe reply to the wrong one? Please clarify thanks. 

[Fried Rice]

2 hours ago, Despair said:

Everyone wants things spoon fed to them instead of earning it like we all did when asylum was THE number 1 server to play.  > I agree with this to an extent, but when you make comments like the ones I posted in my last post (which were all said by you.) You make people not want to go through the learning curve. I played for 6+ months because I became a even remotely decent player; one of the hardest things was keeping the drive to consistently play, when people like yourself are constantly spouting off and trashing other players because they aren't as good as you or your buddies. Most of your gang mates specifically (crimson) were constantly toxic to the general player base when it came to fighting and events. I'm willing to bet a vast majority of players have quit this server because of this behaviour; especially with the high volume of admins in crimson at that time. Now this isn't me saying that asylum should be a place that panders to everyone. I'll be the first to admit; I've said and done quite a few toxic things myself.  But you guys need to have more foresight with how your actions affect the general player base; especially when admins are heavily in the mix. Which it was in the the crimson. 

If you go back and re read the comments, it was all directed towards people who have been here as long as I have or longer. Most of them are now no longer apart of this community due to poor choices being made. I do not speak down to new players, I help them and so does most of Crimson. We often would rob them, see they were new and let them go. This is Asylum, shit talk is the biggest source of content in this community and has been that was for the past 10 years. I apologize if I hurt your feelings because I called you bad in a decade old video game. 

[Despair]

25 minutes ago, Fried Rice said:

If you go back and re read the comments, it was all directed towards people who have been here as long as I have or longer. Most of them are now no longer apart of this community due to poor choices being made. I do not speak down to new players, I help them and so does most of Crimson. We often would rob them, see they were new and let them go. This is Asylum, shit talk is the biggest source of content in this community and has been that was for the past 10 years. I apologize if I hurt your feelings because I called you bad in a decade old video game. 

You've spoken down to me personally many times, aswell as my friends. I do appreciate accept your apology however. I fundamentally disagree with your assessment of the majority of crimson however. As I was talked down to and insulted by them, more than any other group on the server. I remember one of my first gang boats where I was called trash and terrible at the game and told to just quit as a new player. How do you think that's going to play out for the majority of people. They will quit, I'm a little more thick skinned however and stuck around and got better over time. I think you guys have created sort of a echochamber where you think crimson is great and does very little or no wrong. Maybe you guys do help new players, I can't attest to that personally as I don't know and haven't seen it. I can however attest that I was robbed several times in my first few weeks here by crimson. I think the important point to take away from this is, doing some good and helping new players; doesn't take away from all the bad crimson did. Look at Chris peacock, he's one of the biggest mouth pieces on the server and goes around literally insulting and trashing everyone. What have you guys done of as a gang comprised of a large amount of admins to try and improve the situation with him specifically? I fully support freedom of speech and people being able to say what they want; but as I aforementioned in one of my above posts, when you have a high volume of admins in the gang you need to have some oversight as to what your gang members are doing. Because at that point you guys sort of represent the server as a flagship gang/group. I'd also like to note you guys openly let people in your gang that accused people wrongfully of being pedophiles which I have a huge issue with. Specifically vortex dming shark fire and several other people with said accusations about Doomba. This I have a huge issue with. Screenshots were posted proving this and nothing was done. These are the people that were representing this server aswell as crimson and this is a HUGE issue. The only time I personally saw you guys roleplaying and not being toxic/interacting with the general player base over a 8 month period was when the temporary switch happened to Pygros Pirates. Right when the name changed back though the gang went back to its old ways. Other than that you guys basically just logged on to do federal events, server events like gang forts and to fight cartels on occasion. 

Edited November 10, 2024 by Despair

[pan fried]

1 hour ago, Fried Rice said:

If you go back and re read the comments, it was all directed towards people who have been here as long as I have or longer. Most of them are now no longer apart of this community due to poor choices being made. I do not speak down to new players, I help them and so does most of Crimson. We often would rob them, see they were new and let them go. This is Asylum, shit talk is the biggest source of content in this community and has been that was for the past 10 years. I apologize if I hurt your feelings because I called you bad in a decade old video game. 

crimson big gay

just look at junke started out kavala drug dealer rat got thrown out of kavala moved to sofia got thrown out of sofia started enjoying bananas a little bit too much became gay made strides suckin off higher ups on the apd started cheating became admin started cheatergang invited all his butt buddies now lives in a trailer up in alaska as samperinos plaything that is not even allowed to play arma anymore

[Rocketneo]

4 hours ago, Despair said:

You've spoken down to me personally many times, aswell as my friends. I do appreciate accept your apology however. I fundamentally disagree with your assessment of the majority of crimson however. As I was talked down to and insulted by them, more than any other group on the server. I remember one of my first gang boats where I was called trash and terrible at the game and told to just quit as a new player. How do you think that's going to play out for the majority of people. They will quit, I'm a little more thick skinned however and stuck around and got better over time. I think you guys have created sort of a echochamber where you think crimson is great and does very little or no wrong. Maybe you guys do help new players, I can't attest to that personally as I don't know and haven't seen it. I can however attest that I was robbed several times in my first few weeks here by crimson. I think the important point to take away from this is, doing some good and helping new players; doesn't take away from all the bad crimson did. Look at Chris peacock, he's one of the biggest mouth pieces on the server and goes around literally insulting and trashing everyone. What have you guys done of as a gang comprised of a large amount of admins to try and improve the situation with him specifically? I fully support freedom of speech and people being able to say what they want; but as I aforementioned in one of my above posts, when you have a high volume of admins in the gang you need to have some oversight as to what your gang members are doing. Because at that point you guys sort of represent the server as a flagship gang/group. I'd also like to note you guys openly let people in your gang that accused people wrongfully of being pedophiles which I have a huge issue with. Specifically vortex dming shark fire and several other people with said accusations about Doomba. This I have a huge issue with. Screenshots were posted proving this and nothing was done. These are the people that were representing this server aswell as crimson and this is a HUGE issue. The only time I personally saw you guys roleplaying and not being toxic/interacting with the general player base over a 8 month period was when the temporary switch happened to Pygros Pirates. Right when the name changed back though the gang went back to its old ways. Other than that you guys basically just logged on to do federal events, server events like gang forts and to fight cartels on occasion. 

To be fair I am in crimson, chris peacock has not been in crimson for quite some time now. The gang has not been active since march/april, we only had around 2 weeks after wipe where we were actively playing. We didn't fight cartels often or other events, we mainly stayed grinding money. The server all-together has been lacking on Roleplaying for a long time now, that is what they intend to fix to some degree so please try not to single us out for "not roleplaying". I can honestly say that asylums community all talks shit to one another about the skill level of others, or what not to do that someone is complaining about on the forums which didn't have to be posted on the forums in the first place. If they specifically go to any of the admins and ask for general help about the server, they will all be willing to help that person. On the other hand if you are blowing their discord messages up complaining about random shit, admin or not it annoys that person to possibly give a nasty response. As fried stated he gave those responses to stupid messages also "before admin" where that person had quite some time on the server. He didn't insult them directly just told them to practice and get good a little bit which you also said you went to practice. I guess you will have your own opinion and I can't change that so I wanted to give you a little insight. Also thank you for sticking around even after all that happened in-game.

[Despair]

7 minutes ago, Rocketneo said:

illing to help that person. On the other hand if you are blowing their discord messages up complaining about random shit, admin or not it annoys that person to possibly give a nasty response. As fried stated he gave those responses to stupid messages also "before admin" where that person had quite some time on the server. He didn't insult them directly just told t

Never had issues with you man, don't know if you remember but we used to slam each other on church 24/7 1v1s when we both were trash at the game. You helped me a lot personally and ive never heard you shit talk anyone. Tbh we both had some really funny whiffs back then LOL. Personally I haven't played since before the wipe, because I did not agree with wiping players progression like the majority of the people here. Seemed like an echo chamber decision made by staff members at the time, because when it was discussed in teamspeak the vast majority of the gangs were against it and voiced said concerns. Regardless though Vortex should be permed, for what he did to doomba. I'm happy to re-produce screenshots if staff wants to right that wrong. Calling someone a pedophile wrongly and accusing them of it just isn't acceptable. Especially in the position of admin, not to mention people like @Akulawere actively covering for him and defending him regardless of multiple incidents of him acting toxic and witch-hunting people he didnt like.  @ObiWoki@Fitz@Mitchthis is your chance to step up and do something good as the new owners here. 

Edited November 10, 2024 by Despair

[Rocketneo]

Just now, Despair said:

Never had issues with you man, don't know if you remember but we used to slam each other on church 24/7 1v1s when we both were trash at the game. You helped me a lot personally and ive never heard you shit talk anyone. Tbh we both had some really funny whiffs back then LOL.

I'm not saying we had problems with each other lol I was/am ass at the game but I will still talk shit when they start it. I guess I just want to let you know that crimson members don't try to go out of there way to be assholes, we all just play the game and do a little shit talking. It's in every community/game and if people can't handle it then gaming is not for them unless they just mute everyone all the time then they may find enjoyment by privately talking to a group in discord or something. 

[Despair]

1 minute ago, Rocketneo said:

I'm not saying we had problems with each other lol I was/am ass at the game but I will still talk shit when they start it. I guess I just want to let you know that crimson members don't try to go out of there way to be assholes, we all just play the game and do a little shit talking. It's in every community/game and if people can't handle it then gaming is not for them unless they just mute everyone all the time then they may find enjoyment by privately talking to a group in discord or something. 

Fair enough, I was the same way LOL. Kinda hard not to pipe up when someone's coming at ya for sure. 

[Knight05]

Crimson cheater gaaaaaaang

[applepicker]

The areas to gather/process drugs should be in an area where rebels would have advantage > cops since  rebel territory. Coke pro/field is great spots, but you need a 3 way traffic of other money making methods to overlap coke field which is north rebel and cops checking. I think another valid option to make cocaine more active having a legal mineral mine or a turtle poaching spot in a nearby lake. I think adding a way to fish in land inside of ponds or lakes with a garage and houses nearby coke lab can look like friendly miners that come back with rifles  ready to attack, creating active fights throughout the days. Clans forming i suggest another option is to have  warlord flags that can be placed in the npcs hands which increase  gang crafting speed on time it takes to make a brick/meth/lsd. And if anyone else uses our flag and doesn't replace it with theirs gives that flag a cut and a member of gang has to get the flag to rebel or gang hideout so you can take the drugs out of the flags sack then either craft or sell it for $$

Keep in mind once you take the flag anyone can kill you and take the drugs from your flag. This will make the trips to flag not always a smooth ride so you would want to go with a few homies.

Been saying it for a minute now but if arma is meant to shoot and see how far we can get shots. You limit potential  only allowing 300m in kos zone. Compete bogus it should be based off the terrain in said area. This is where the mature way of thinking comes in instead of playing like a baby. 

 theirs plenty of spots just outside the circle that would allow us to play inside towns at gang hideouts more efficiently. Instead of the same way every time.

A circle shouldn't dictate where you can fight. If your in a small town with windows and balconys to jump off for a better shot that should be allowed and the concept of keeping it a circle needs to be updated so it moves along the radius of flag and let us move in from 300m or even more if it's on a 500M  hill and we can kill people capping. Someone will just get people behind those guys and combat fights will extend further out to kill those sniping into at cap. 

I think making gang fortresses more tactically fought. And you can process drugs and use black market here. So when people stock their houses up with guns thryll have a gang garage close by so you can move in and set up recon for.nackup. 

 

You do that by making a black market near neachori if not at gang fortess and all south near cartels and then once more gangs are in place stocking their hideouts and houses you'll see more people gearing at houses in cities their gangs own.

That can introduce spraying your tag in their territory and create gangconflicts which lead to war so onto of war points you'll always be on the look out for red names lurking around and the conflict won't end until one side wins by either spraying tags on ur houses or until 500 of each side dies will the war automatically end.. gang conflicts can bring new titles for example if your gang does more tags and hits you can enter gangwar 2 and the kc goes up to 1250 tags or kills so now you getting more kills for new title or skins maybe a nice chain or car or something for your gangrelated duties can be a very constant place fighters would come to start violence. Torching down. Enemy gang houses so they can run it for cartels or get robed. Doing tactical stuff like this will make gear matter and people won't lose it so easily becoming better shooters by be stealthy knowing these streets in towns are swarming with red gang names ur moving as a unit and throwing smokes and grenades captain rolls up on the .50 and starts shredding houses shut starts going crazy. Cars blowing up maybe stealing cop cars I think letting civilians use sirens would be a normal thing to do especially coz we can play the crazy card. 

In any case, a set up like this. Gang gangs owning entire towns can put their colors on map so ppl know what colors own where. And other GANGS can take over their houses and burn em down  rip to shreds. It would be allowed out war and yous see alot of combat this way.  Maybe your gang can be rewarded a new car skin deeper down the road to show your vengeance 

 

 

Edited November 10, 2024 by wompwomp

[Steve]

19 hours ago, Despair said:

Sorry, I'm failing to see how this is relevant to my post, did you maybe reply to the wrong one? Please clarify thanks. 

I think without realizing it, you mentioned a period of time in a Asylum where essentially people weren't "lazy" about grinding money. And in my opinion that was right around 2016 and prior to that. Don't get me wrong, there is other factors outside of this.

[Despair]

Most of this just doesn't play well or work with the way asylum is currently. 

 

5 hours ago, wompwomp said:

The areas to gather/process drugs should be in an area where rebels would have advantage > cops since  rebel territory. Coke pro/field is great spots, but you need a 3 way traffic of other money making methods to overlap coke field which is north rebel and cops checking. I think another valid option to make cocaine more active having a legal mineral mine or a turtle poaching spot in a nearby lake. I think adding a way to fish in land inside of ponds or lakes with a garage and houses nearby coke lab can look like friendly miners that come back with rifles  ready to attack, creating active fights throughout the days. Clans forming i suggest another option is to have  warlord flags that can be placed in the npcs hands which increase  gang crafting speed on time it takes to make a brick/meth/lsd. And if anyone else uses our flag and doesn't replace it with theirs gives that flag a cut and a member of gang has to get the flag to rebel or gang hideout so you can take the drugs out of the flags sack then either craft or sell it for $$

Keep in mind once you take the flag anyone can kill you and take the drugs from your flag. This will make the trips to flag not always a smooth ride so you would want to go with a few homies.

Been saying it for a minute now but if arma is meant to shoot and see how far we can get shots. You limit potential  only allowing 300m in kos zone. Compete bogus it should be based off the terrain in said area. This is where the mature way of thinking comes in instead of playing like a baby. 

 theirs plenty of spots just outside the circle that would allow us to play inside towns at gang hideouts more efficiently. Instead of the same way every time.

A circle shouldn't dictate where you can fight. If your in a small town with windows and balconys to jump off for a better shot that should be allowed and the concept of keeping it a circle needs to be updated so it moves along the radius of flag and let us move in from 300m or even more if it's on a 500M  hill and we can kill people capping. Someone will just get people behind those guys and combat fights will extend further out to kill those sniping into at cap. 

I think making gang fortresses more tactically fought. And you can process drugs and use black market here. So when people stock their houses up with guns thryll have a gang garage close by so you can move in and set up recon for.nackup. 

 

You do that by making a black market near neachori if not at gang fortess and all south near cartels and then once more gangs are in place stocking their hideouts and houses you'll see more people gearing at houses in cities their gangs own.

That can introduce spraying your tag in their territory and create gangconflicts which lead to war so onto of war points you'll always be on the look out for red names lurking around and the conflict won't end until one side wins by either spraying tags on ur houses or until 500 of each side dies will the war automatically end.. gang conflicts can bring new titles for example if your gang does more tags and hits you can enter gangwar 2 and the kc goes up to 1250 tags or kills so now you getting more kills for new title or skins maybe a nice chain or car or something for your gangrelated duties can be a very constant place fighters would come to start violence. Torching down. Enemy gang houses so they can run it for cartels or get robed. Doing tactical stuff like this will make gear matter and people won't lose it so easily becoming better shooters by be stealthy knowing these streets in towns are swarming with red gang names ur moving as a unit and throwing smokes and grenades captain rolls up on the .50 and starts shredding houses shut starts going crazy. Cars blowing up maybe stealing cop cars I think letting civilians use sirens would be a normal thing to do especially coz we can play the crazy card. 

In any case, a set up like this. Gang gangs owning entire towns can put their colors on map so ppl know what colors own where. And other GANGS can take over their houses and burn em down  rip to shreds. It would be allowed out war and yous see alot of combat this way.  Maybe your gang can be rewarded a new car skin deeper down the road to show your vengeance 

 

 

Few problems with this, they won't buff rebels. APD since about 2020 have constantly gotten buffs, where rebels have not. Reason for this is simple, most staff members are in the APD high up, or have friends that are etc. Most notable buffs being cops getting ifrits which are spammed for about every event etc, passing out mk1s to lower ranks to the point where people were patroling with them (during the wipe frequently.) and high up staff members making rules to punish rebels for doing things they don't like. Like federal event spam etc. (most notability the ghost hawk policy) with no counter for the rebels. Like Olympus has titans etc. Olympus constantly maintains a solid balance with buffing cops and rebels and adding new content gear and weapons for rebels. Asylum does not. Best thing we have to counter is rpgs, and 50 cails. Which objectively are much harder to use effectively then things like the ghost hawk. Federal events are also outdated and were designed for play at the time when ghost hawks and armour were not a thing. Or the undercover system, which is just basically cops larping as rebels in my opinion. Also increasing the KOS zone is a terrible idea, because people will abuse that and use it as a reason to just start shooting everyone. Especially cops. because as is if we hear sirens we can just light them up. Cartels as is, have much longer range combat and don't suffer with this issue. My recommendation would be to get into that type of gameplay if you want to play sniper elite. I would however keep in mind that that is not the Meta nowadays like it was years ago. Now it's more based around smoking and ifrit slamming and baiting. Or if your WS, camping all the point with 50 cails and miniguns. Also your gang fort suggested changes would be extremely broken and overpowered. Having a private rebel and drug dealer is more than enough. Also this event is quite tactical as is. as it takes extremely solid coordination and team play to take out entrenched gangs on the point. The main issue with the event isn't the lack of it being tactical its gangs being free to setup on points an hour before the event. Also spraying red tags is a thing as is, its the in game war system problem is most gangs wont openly have wars, because they do not want to be just randomly shot up. whereas on Olympus its red names everywhere because people arent cowards about starting wars. 

The biggest problems we have are people not acting to restrict play styles that kill combat and fights and player interaction for example. 

rebels sitting on capture points with 50s and miniguns

rebels setting up at events like gang fort early. 

Cops camping bottle neck rebel. organized by Lts and higher ups in most case, killing fights and not letting rebels re gear. 

Poor cooldown for federal events which allows people to spam events which drains the apd and takes away from their fun. (instead we got the ghost hawk policy)

apd being allowed to patrol in ghost hawks, (ive been dropped on personally by a full g hawk on the main msg doing stash house. ) This shouldn't be pulled for situations like this. Even though they got smoked. Can upload the clip if anyone doesn't believe me

APD being allowed to camp drug zones as undercover cops, again just seems like cops abusing the system to play as a weird combination of rebels/cops. aswell as camping peoples houses at methlab. Ive personally been spam tazed through the wall by cops at my house whilst waiting for a higher up to raid my house. This went on for 15 minutes whilst the waited. absolutely stupid. definitely what I want to do for 15 minutes when getting off work. 

cops being allowed to send people straight to jail, which is again abused constantly to take rebels out of fights. not for its intended purpose.

s2 domination: making it so people get all of their fights in one place instead of actually playing on the main server. also the vast majority of these players don't even play the main server and are cheaters. 

Policies that allow captains to superseede the handbook at anytime. so they can basically act and do as they please. even though that wasn't the alleged attempt for the policy. 

APD fighting on cap with tasers, should be lethals only if they want to raid cartels or rebels. just like everyone else. also restricting it to swat would make more sense. still lethals only. I personally would love them to raid more frequently and fight against us, but without tasers, which again kill fights and make people have to sit in jail for a long period of time. Not to mention the downing script is shit. this is the same reason the cops loose it when rebels start tazing them

Not being able to spawn in houses on rebel island, only being able to store gear, which restricts people to rebels that are constantly camped. especially by the chinese

apd constant armour spam at federal events, (should be a limited amount of ifrits they can use per event) 

apd passing out mk1s to people who should not have them in the first place. which breaks the balance. 

captains being able to internally investigate themselves aswell as their buddies in the higher up ranks. its normal for them to be friends, but there should be staff oversight from staff outside of the APD for situations like this.

cops getting points for bans whilst on rebel. (ive heard the argument that they shouldn't be doing ti because they represent the server) simple fix. cops have to play under a different name then they do as civ. 

Edited November 10, 2024 by Despair

[Junke]

On 10/28/2024 at 1:39 PM, Steve said:

I never really came to Asylum for the RP. A very very small percentage of the fun I have had here was through RP beyond "hands up or die." I wasn't limited to cartel fighting by any means, but it was a large part of what I did and I loved and still love this community. However, you are right when you say that egos got involved but it was less with cartels and more with domination.

I would equate domination/conquest/whatever the other servers have to DDT. For those who don't know DDT was an insecticide used in America and the rest of the world. It was very dangerous for your long term health and caused birth defects and a host of other problems. However, what it did do was kill insects incredibly effectively for long periods of time. It was so efficient that it virtually wiped out malaria ridden mosquitoes in the United states. In my opinion that is a net positive, as malaria is one of the biggest killers world wide. My point being Domination/conquest was a net positive. It kept the community alive when it likely would have otherwise failed. That being said, at the same time it ended up being a huge factor in what diminished Asylums player base into competitive ego filled kids with montages. It's not the main reason we have a dying community, but it is a big one.

I got the point of the message, what a way to explain it though

[Dimz]

W

[Junke]

On 11/9/2024 at 7:16 PM, pan fried said:

cheating became admin 

Wait so I am cracked at Arma 3?


Take that @operatorjohnny^

[Gamer4LifeHQ]

There are many things that can be said about how things are or are going to be. However, out of all that is valuable to the members of the Asylum community, communication is of the utmost importance. Communication is essential to maintaining a sense of community. The fact that @Fitz is the only one to respond to my posts or others brings a level of concern. If this community is your child and you, the Owners/Devs, are the parents, then no amount of work will ever supersede spending time with your 'children.' Neglect on any level is a death sentence. So I will say it again, do an Owner/Dev live stream. Personalize your engagement by taking the time out of your day to fulfill the needs of your 'children.' Just so we are clear on this, you are not required to show coding for a Dev live stream. If you need to know how to engage with your community, go and look up a YouTuber/Dev, Pirate Software.

I am not going to assume that you guys don't care; I just believe that you need to remember to include your community in what is happening weekly. Make sure to read and consider what the community wants. The 35,000 'children' that you adopted are hungry and want attention, simple as that. Unfortunately, some need their diapers changed. Nevertheless, once you change a diaper, feed the 'children,' and give them attention, everything works out for the better because at that point it's called a Family...... Or a daycare.

If y'all want a Dev live stream like this post.

 

Also @Fitzthanks for the "leek" in discord.

[Sky]

3 hours ago, Gamer4LifeHQ said:

There are many things that can be said about how things are or are going to be. However, out of all that is valuable to the members of the Asylum community, communication is of the utmost importance. Communication is essential to maintaining a sense of community. The fact that @Fitz is the only one to respond to my posts or others brings a level of concern. If this community is your child and you, the Owners/Devs, are the parents, then no amount of work will ever supersede spending time with your 'children.' Neglect on any level is a death sentence. So I will say it again, do an Owner/Dev live stream. Personalize your engagement by taking the time out of your day to fulfill the needs of your 'children.' Just so we are clear on this, you are not required to show coding for a Dev live stream. If you need to know how to engage with your community, go and look up a YouTuber/Dev, Pirate Software.

I am not going to assume that you guys don't care; I just believe that you need to remember to include your community in what is happening weekly. Make sure to read and consider what the community wants. The 35,000 'children' that you adopted are hungry and want attention, simple as that. Unfortunately, some need their diapers changed. Nevertheless, once you change a diaper, feed the 'children,' and give them attention, everything works out for the better because at that point it's called a Family...... Or a daycare.

If y'all want a Dev live stream like this post.

 

Also @Fitzthanks for the "leek" in discord.

your analogy makes me uncomfortable

[王 rando 王]

niggas be yappin too much.

shut the fuck up and get your bread up

[Gamer4LifeHQ]

1 hour ago, Sky said:

your analogy makes me uncomfortable

Very good. Do not the members of Asylum sometimes act like children?

[Fitz]

23 hours ago, Gamer4LifeHQ said:

There are many things that can be said about how things are or are going to be. However, out of all that is valuable to the members of the Asylum community, communication is of the utmost importance. Communication is essential to maintaining a sense of community. The fact that @Fitz is the only one to respond to my posts or others brings a level of concern. If this community is your child and you, the Owners/Devs, are the parents, then no amount of work will ever supersede spending time with your 'children.' Neglect on any level is a death sentence. So I will say it again, do an Owner/Dev live stream. Personalize your engagement by taking the time out of your day to fulfill the needs of your 'children.' Just so we are clear on this, you are not required to show coding for a Dev live stream. If you need to know how to engage with your community, go and look up a YouTuber/Dev, Pirate Software.

I am not going to assume that you guys don't care; I just believe that you need to remember to include your community in what is happening weekly. Make sure to read and consider what the community wants. The 35,000 'children' that you adopted are hungry and want attention, simple as that. Unfortunately, some need their diapers changed. Nevertheless, once you change a diaper, feed the 'children,' and give them attention, everything works out for the better because at that point it's called a Family...... Or a daycare.

If y'all want a Dev live stream like this post.

 

Also @Fitzthanks for the "leek" in discord.

I personally dont have the reputable free time to do a stream.  The patch notes will be posted next monday, and I'll try and post additional things as we button up.

[pan fried]

On 11/11/2024 at 5:39 PM, Junke said:

Wait so I am cracked at Arma 3?


Take that @operatorjohnny^

didnt say that lol

[Junke]

2 hours ago, pan fried said:

didnt say that lol

I mean in a way you did

I think you're just jealous we had a Grenade Launcher in Sofia and you didn't

 

[moift]

5 hours ago, Fitz said:

I'll try and post additional things as we button up.

add this to asylum before nov 22