Budbringer Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 40 minutes ago, Vash said: Are people seriously still complaining about how Paratus and the CMs arent listening to the community? We could make the cartels yield 2 mill per 5 min into gang account and people would then complain that they cant have more then 10(?) orcas in their garage Vash, explicit, BaDaBiNg_10-8 and 2 others like this Link to comment
Killswitch Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 4 hours ago, Haych said: Only huge issue we have now is the Fed. People 'exploit' it when theres no cops on. The domes need a maximum of 5 cops on, however the vault doesn't require any, so people wait for the animals to open the domes, and then proceed drilling into the vaults with 0 cops on making maximum profit for no effort. You can also drill the vaults when its on elevated security, so people just cycle this and make easy money. Plus, this bugs out SWAT. I also think the Fed needs a massive overhaul, its a end game event, it shouldn't be for groups of 4 just to do smash and grabs and make easy money, it should be hard, and some planning should go into it. Here's some ideas that we should consider. Increase the amount of money the Fed yields to around 500-700k, this is about 50k-70k cut per person for around 45m/1hr of work. Also this requires 2 Hemmt Transports making planning even more valuable. Increase the amount of cops needed on to 12 to balance the payout. It shouldn't be easy. Remove the whole Dome drilling. Animals open them anyway. Increase the timer of the vault drilling, and remove explosive charges. Money Launderer/Gold Buyers, have 2 of these on the map. Adds another scenerio to fighting rather then always defending rebel. You can use some of the suggested cartel locations for these. Reduce SWAT ladders to 2 This is all to make the Fed a actual end game event and only for gangs with good planning and strategy to pull off. The Fed should be a event where Police pull expensive equipment, same with rebels. It should be a all out type of thing, this will ultimately make the start of it fun, also make the chases at the end even more fun. FYI, this is patch notes not suggestion thread :-P But I will dissect this down and explain a few things. First and foremost, not bad ideas, some just won't work. Fed doesn't need a complete over-haul, just a few tweaks. Increase Amt of money -> It just got increased, probably won't be increased much more Increase amount of cops -> I agree. It should be one of the most difficult things to do on Asylum. Increase drill timer -> Use to be 2 minutes, but then we increased it to, I believe 5 minutes (trust me, people complained) Dome drilling -> In theory, its a good idea, animals are a problem. I would rather see a fix so animals can't crack the domes for you. Explosive charges -> They are not the problem, but can see why you throw them in there with the state of the fed Money Launderer/Gold Buyers -> I like this idea, but it won't happen. Reasoning is because you are dragging out the fight with the APD. If a fed takes 30 minutes already, and then you add another 20-30 minutes, then the cops are fighting only for the fed for an hour. This is roughly 50% of a restart/recycle, which means that cops won't be able to do the other things they are suppose to do. Swat Ladders -> No comment, never had an issue with this. Woah...Krypton complaining about a patch?!?!?! That has never happened before!!! :^D Haych likes this Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Just now, Killswitch said: FYI, this is patch notes not suggestion thread :-P But I will dissect this down and explain a few things. First and foremost, not bad ideas, some just won't work. Fed doesn't need a complete over-haul, just a few tweaks. Increase Amt of money -> It just got increased, probably won't be increased much more Increase amount of cops -> I agree. It should be one of the most difficult things to do on Asylum. Increase drill timer -> Use to be 2 minutes, but then we increased it to, I believe 5 minutes (trust me, people complained) Dome drilling -> In theory, its a good idea, animals are a problem. I would rather see a fix so animals can't crack the domes for you. Explosive charges -> They are not the problem, but can see why you throw them in there with the state of the fed Money Launderer/Gold Buyers -> I like this idea, but it won't happen. Reasoning is because you are dragging out the fight with the APD. If a fed takes 30 minutes already, and then you add another 20-30 minutes, then the cops are fighting only for the fed for an hour. This is roughly 50% of a restart/recycle, which means that cops won't be able to do the other things they are suppose to do. Swat Ladders -> No comment, never had an issue with this. Woah...Krypton complaining about a patch?!?!?! That has never happened before!!! :^D I like this patch. I complained that the admins Act like they're listening. It clearly says that in multiple posta Link to comment
RiverThrough Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Awesome patch! love bug fixes more than new features considering certain bugs can be around for so long with no eta on a fix cough* pulling unconscious players out of a locked car as medic cough*, the cartel changes are brilliant, giving the gangs what they have been whining about but adding a perfect balance. 10/10 Link to comment
V3n0M! Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Great patch, but 4k every 5 minutes going into the fridges is a bit OP. Link to comment
Killswitch Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 I like this patch. I complained that the admins Act like they're listening. It clearly says that in multiple posta Listening and taking your suggestions are two complete different things you know Das Otter, TMACWILLIS, Big Fred and 1 other like this Link to comment
Jonah Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 15 minutes ago, Killswitch said: FYI, this is patch notes not suggestion thread :-P But I will dissect this down and explain a few things. First and foremost, not bad ideas, some just won't work. Fed doesn't need a complete over-haul, just a few tweaks. Increase Amt of money -> It just got increased, probably won't be increased much more Increase amount of cops -> I agree. It should be one of the most difficult things to do on Asylum. Increase drill timer -> Use to be 2 minutes, but then we increased it to, I believe 5 minutes (trust me, people complained) Dome drilling -> In theory, its a good idea, animals are a problem. I would rather see a fix so animals can't crack the domes for you. Explosive charges -> They are not the problem, but can see why you throw them in there with the state of the fed Money Launderer/Gold Buyers -> I like this idea, but it won't happen. Reasoning is because you are dragging out the fight with the APD. If a fed takes 30 minutes already, and then you add another 20-30 minutes, then the cops are fighting only for the fed for an hour. This is roughly 50% of a restart/recycle, which means that cops won't be able to do the other things they are suppose to do. Swat Ladders -> No comment, never had an issue with this. Woah...Krypton complaining about a patch?!?!?! That has never happened before!!! :^D There definitely is a problem with swat ladders btw Link to comment
Bilal Battu Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 (edited) Now lets talk about oil cartel... I am not saying it should generate money but that location...please put it on land. That and I'm not sure how many are running oil, at least on Australia. Are the owners around to tell us if you are just taking the rubber out? My guess is not. Maybe put rubber in based on oil found when wrecking maybe? Not really sure that would help though. Edited April 1, 2016 by Bilal Battu Link to comment
Jonah Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 20 minutes ago, Bilal Battu said: Now lets talk about oil cartel... I am not saying it should generate money but that location...please put it on land. That and I'm not sure how many are running oil, at least on Australia. Are the owners around to tell us if you are just taking the rubber out? My guess is not. Maybe put rubber in based on oil found when wrecking maybe? Not really sure that would help though. is food and water too expensive for you? lol Fernando likes this Link to comment
Diseased Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Fucking said it for ever, log on today and 3 gangs are already fighting for Wong's. +1 Incentive = More fights. John Lemmon and Chau like this Link to comment
Pentax Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 1 minute ago, jonah1045 said: is food and water too expensive for you? lol He's been sitting in a tent grabbing money from cartel fridge 24/7, ate all the food and drank all the redgulls with water. Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 1 hour ago, Vash said: That's what I'm saying. But even after this patch, there are people still complaining. Aren't you Career cop anyways? Never seen you in a notable gang. Not insulting you just asking. Link to comment
Vash Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Just now, Krypton:) said: Aren't you Career cop anyways? Never seen you in a notable gang. Not insulting you just asking. Your point? Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Just now, Vash said: Your point? Your opinion on cartels is invalid, STON3COLDK1LL3R likes this Link to comment
Vash Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Just now, Krypton:) said: Your opinion on cartels is invalid, I don't recall posting anything regarding cartels. Link to comment
Midamaru Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Just now, Krypton:) said: Aren't you Career cop anyways? Never seen you in a notable gang. Not insulting you just asking. You're behaving like a little baby on this thread because the money doesn't directly go into the gang account. Don't really care who you are or how "notable" your gangs are. Fucking appreciate this golden patch and stop throwing a trantum. BioHazard, AndrewFam, SheriffJohnBeard and 1 other like this Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Midamaru said: You're behaving like a little baby on this thread because the money doesn't directly go into the gang account. Don't really care who you are or how "notable" your gangs are. Fucking appreciate this golden patch and stop throwing a trantum. I would probably destroy u in game. Cya n game pal. Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Vash said: I don't recall posting anything regarding cartels. The point of the last 2 weeks and this thread is cartels...smh Link to comment
STON3COLDK1LL3R Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Thank fuck I managed to put crates in my mansion now. @Paratus I don't know where you were testing but everyone I killed today had no y inventory on the ground. Anywhere. The Monopoly Man likes this Link to comment
BrutaL Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 3 hours ago, Diseased said: This was how much money it was before, LEAVE IT BE. So many more fights and spending of money will come of this. ye already so far today had fights with 'random's at wong's triad for 70k and fought pretty much all night lol asylum is SAVED. if this patch stays how it is, DO NOT nerf it.. having to collect it is a good idea too paratus.. this patch is amazing.. just fix y inventory, please can it drop upon respawn? pretty please? i beg i beg i beg i beg @Paratus Apci and kryptonthegamer like this Link to comment
Poko Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Looks sick @Paratusmaybe ill come back and play, just maybe..... Dirty money idea is actually kinda cool imo. fight to get the cartel, fight to get the money, fight to keep the money. FIGHTSSSSSS. Only thing that can make this bad is if the server restarts during a fight lol money resets, kinda sucks. Need the reset though otherwise people on at EU times will be stocking up on restarts. Very difficult to please everyone, but you did well Edited April 2, 2016 by Poko BrutaL and Apci like this Link to comment
Goldberg Attorney at Law Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 The Y inventory fix is being worked on by Bamf and staff on test server now. The fridge resetting on restart is being pushed to Paratus. BrutaL and 544heu like this Link to comment
Big Bird Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Drug now takes 2 instead of 1 meth per 10. Is this a bug or a feature? Link to comment
Sjuol Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Just let the Y inventory drop when you respawn like you changed it to a while ago, that was nice. +1 Link to comment
Diseased Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 LOOK AT THIS SHIT YOU MAKE INCENTIVES AND GANGS ARE POPPING UP AND PEOPLE ARE FUCKING FIGHTING. Feenix likes this Link to comment
Rambo Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Speaking from the grave, We did it boys, The meeting manage to get enough attention to get changes started. See when we work together we pull amazing things. Thank you to @Killswitch for making this possible. Now lets be constructive and positif to keep these changes frequent and interesting. Rebel Public Relations, The one .50cal Gunner. Lister, Larry, Bry and 4 others like this Link to comment
kryptonthegamer Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 27 minutes ago, Rambo said: Speaking from the grave, We did it boys, The meeting manage to get enough attention to get changes started. See when we work together we pull amazing things. Thank you to @Killswitch for making this possible. Now lets be constructive and positif to keep these changes frequent and interesting. Rebel Public Relations, The one .50cal Gunner. Justice will be served my friend Link to comment
Feenix Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 LOOK AT ALL THE GANGS COMING UP DONT BE RETARDED AND DO SOME STUPID PATCH! PLEASE! Big Bird likes this Link to comment
Chase Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Feenix said: LOOK AT ALL THE GANGS COMING UP DONT BE RETARDED AND DO SOME STUPID PATCH! PLEASE! +1 its going good keep going in the right direction Link to comment
Jexla Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 8 hours ago, Bilal Battu said: Now lets talk about oil cartel... I am not saying it should generate money but that location...please put it on land. That and I'm not sure how many are running oil, at least on Australia. Are the owners around to tell us if you are just taking the rubber out? My guess is not. Maybe put rubber in based on oil found when wrecking maybe? Not really sure that would help though. It's not being passively created and no one is running oil to create it, only just seen 1 pop up now that I won't bother to collect..... Link to comment
Seán That Irish Guy Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 16 hours ago, GarethBatty said: I hope this is an april fools patch notes because this is useless post. Yet again, you haven't listened to anything the community has said about the cartels @Paratus."Dirty money from cartels."!!!!!!! Thank you for wasting my time once again. Why are you complaining about cartels? You cant fight them for shit so they aint much use to you. explicit, Tiger, BioHazard and 1 other like this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 8 hours ago, Krypton:) said: I would probably destroy u in game. Cya n game pal. Probably yeah, but thats not worth anything it's just a game.. atleast for most SheriffJohnBeard and Quenton like this Link to comment
Stephen Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Now that rebels are satisfied, can we get a medic patch ... ? Gubber Flexx and Big Fred like this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Stephen said: Now that rebels are satisfied, can we get a medic patch ... ? Healing .50 calls SheriffJohnBeard and Big Fred like this Link to comment
Diseased Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Midamaru said: Healing .50 calls Link to comment
Sean // Fitty Bread Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Stephen said: Now that rebels are satisfied, can we get a medic patch ... ? I am not satisfied sir, this patch was good however the day that more good locations are added is the day that I accept MrSmokes ban Link to comment
Quenton Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) Can you please fix the Y inventory drop on death? Now instead of it dropping it just disappears... Edited April 2, 2016 by Quenton Travis* likes this Link to comment
Volunteer281 Posted April 2, 2016 Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 40 minutes ago, Quenton said: Can you please fix the Y inventory drop on death? Now instead of it dropping it just disappears... 14 hours ago, Goldberg Attorney at Law said: The Y inventory fix is being worked on by Bamf and staff on test server now. The fridge resetting on restart is being pushed to Paratus. Working on it Bikstok and Quenton like this Link to comment
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