massi Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) Yes, this thread again HotWings It's been a little over 1 month since I've created the following thread, so I figured we can go back onto the subject of making the prison a relevant end-game activity My thoughts I was reading this and this particular reply had me thinking You don't need an LT on to take out the sand bags, SWAT gets 7.62. You get a strider to push the prison AND it's amphibious. If you have a good strider driver, it's easy to push. Push backwards and you will be FINE, esp in the water because you basically can't be shot and they can't shoot your tires either because they're in the water. Hard peakers definitely will help when you're pushing. Why was the pyrgos prison removed in the first place? There are many tactics that have been developed (ie @Shade with his flashbang technique https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDdd-K_TjME ) It's easy to push and it's not in the middle of nowhere Hard aimers make it even easier The only change that would make it more balanced would be the minimum amount of cops required in order to start a prison break which should be increased to 4-5. This thread's sole purpose is to stir a civil discussion about bringing back pyrgos prison island The idea behind the thread is instead of switching to a location that nobody likes, we can just improve the old pyrgos prison. Edited April 11, 2017 by massi Steve, Twang, Brendon Smith and 2 others like this Link to comment
Smee Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 OLD Prison island, new layout. Xehons, Brendon Smith, Reformed Katheeri and 2 others like this Link to comment
JIMBO Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Do people do the prison anymore? Haven't seen one when I've been on cop in months Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Grimes Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Hardly anybody is. But somehow we're the vocal minority even after a poll that was heavily in favor of changing prison back. Link to comment
Haych Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Cops used to long on specifically when Rebels where doing the old prison, majority liked it. Asylum is the arcade of Life servers, let us slay anyone we want to with ease without worrying about stupid mechanics that don't work most of the time. massi, Sheriff Rick Grimes, Sergio and 2 others like this Link to comment
FudgeR Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Haych said: Cops used to long on specifically when Rebels where doing the old prison, majority liked it. Asylum is the arcade of Life servers, let us slay anyone we want to with ease without worrying about stupid mechanics that don't work most of the time. ^ @bamf Link to comment
Churu Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Terrible, The prison island was perfect. I dont get why we moved it... Brendon Smith, a_haddix and Sergio like this Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Grimes Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 22 minutes ago, Haych said: Cops used to long on specifically when Rebels where doing the old prison, majority liked it. Asylum is the arcade of Life servers, let us slay anyone we want to with ease without worrying about stupid mechanics that don't work most of the time. I remember this quite well. There was even some cops who would get mad that cops would join all of a sudden and accuse them of being money hungry lmao. I rather devs move it back to Pyrgos and improve upon it. Add three bridges, make the brige bigger and add cover, something like that. The peak battles were annoying for lots of people and that could be fixed. Sergio likes this Link to comment
Rusty:) Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Prison island was the best, the rest are fucking dogshit. Brendon Smith likes this Link to comment
HotWings Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 31 minutes ago, Haych said: Cops used to long on specifically when Rebels where doing the old prison, majority liked it. Asylum is the arcade of Life servers, let us slay anyone we want to with ease without worrying about stupid mechanics that don't work most of the time. Rebels used to log on cop* Link to comment
Haych Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 13 minutes ago, HotWings said: Rebels used to log on cop* Don't see a issue with that, do you? massi likes this Link to comment
Axe Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 salty.connor, HotWings and xXx42oNoSc0pExXx like this Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Grimes Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, HotWings said: Rebels used to log on cop* God forbid you have reinforcements and a better chance of winning. Link to comment
HotWings Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, Sheriff Rick Grimes said: God forbid you have reinforcements and a better chance of winning. My experience with that was "can we have lethals" "no we havnt even actually got there yet" *krypton has disconnected* Axe, they took the name eazy, Mike Stmria and 4 others like this Link to comment
HotWings Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, Axe said: Seriously tho.... This ^ Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Grimes Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, HotWings said: My experience with that was "can we have lethals" "no we havnt even actually got there yet" *krypton has disconnected* Regular cops do that even now lmao. Link to comment
HotWings Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, Sheriff Rick Grimes said: Regular cops do that even now lmao. I only play with competent cops these days. Limits my exposure lol. Playing with just Scoot and 2 or 3 others just robbing/killing is much more fun these days. Link to comment
Guest Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Once again, it's not likely to ever return to the old location, or to the old mechanic. Paratus and Bamf dislike both of them. Link to comment
massi Posted March 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, Gnashes said: Once again, it's not likely to ever return to the old location, or to the old mechanic. Paratus and Bamf dislike both of them. How can it be fixed? What exactly don't they like? I'm sure there is a way to fix whatever problem they have with it. There's always a way. Sheriff Rick Grimes likes this Link to comment
Guest Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, massi said: How can it be fixed? What exactly don't they like? I'm sure there is a way to fix whatever problem they have with it. There's always a way. The island location is poor. The mechanic was "stand next to this NPC for 10 minutes and not get shot". They aren't going to revert a more robust system for something that simple. Link to comment
massi Posted March 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, Gnashes said: The island location is poor. The mechanic was "stand next to this NPC for 10 minutes and not get shot". They aren't going to revert a more robust system for something that simple. There's always compromise. This thread's purpose was not to revert to the old mechanic, but rather just change the location. Link to comment
Cassettes Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, Gnashes said: Once again, it's not likely to ever return to the old location, or to the old mechanic. Paratus and Bamf dislike both of them. Not sure why they'd make a decision based on what they like or don't like, if the community doesn't like it what is the point of having it? Link to comment
HotWings Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, Cassettes said: Not sure why they'd make a decision based on what they like or don't like, if the community doesn't like it what is the point of having it? Same could be said by them. Not sure why everyone thinks that just because they dont like something the devs are required to change it. Link to comment
Cassettes Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, HotWings said: Same could be said by them. Not sure why everyone thinks that just because they dont like something the devs are required to change it. Are you serious? ... Link to comment
HotWings Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Just now, Cassettes said: Are you serious? ... Dead serious. Thy're the devs. They made a much better system and put it in a less OP place. Just because people dont like it doesnt mean they are going to revert progress. Link to comment
Budbringer Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 I like the new prison, the idea is cool, but it needs a bit tweaking. I think there should be more cover by the gates you need to lockpick. When I tried it, the cops had a super good spot at the first gate, so we were unable to shoot him and he could camp the gate. I also dont really like the location, and the design itself could use some more tweaks : ) and Sergio like this Link to comment
william Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 can't remember the last time I did a prison break, was probably over 6 months ago, just before that god awful one next to athira got put in. Im all for changing it. I'm willing to bet no one has done a SUCCESSFUL prison break in the past 2 weeks on any altis server. I understand Paratus has his own vision on how he wants his server to be played and thats fine and all but the prison atm is just a place where people sit for 45 minutes, no fights what so ever. finn_, Haych, Sergio and 1 other like this Link to comment
Joel Marley Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 (edited) If your not satisfied, you don't do it right.. Its easy coming from a "Boats n Hoes", may a lesson be learned. > did it 2 times flawlessly with 10ish cops on both times, but haven't yet done many since. Edited April 1, 2017 by Joel Marley Treeontyn likes this Link to comment
FudgeR Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Joel Marley said: If your not satisfied, you don't do it right.. Its easy coming from a "Boats n Hoes", may a lesson be learned. > did it 2 times flawlessly with 10ish cops on both times, but haven't yet done many since. The problem isn't that.. the problem is that it's a horrible location to fight and people just wanna go there and shoot ppl without having to lockpick the entire building and that bs Joel Marley likes this Link to comment
FudgeR Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 10 hours ago, Gnashes said: The island location is poor. The mechanic was "stand next to this NPC for 10 minutes and not get shot". They aren't going to revert a more robust system for something that simple. They are simply retarded then. If they actually played the server they would realize how much more fun it is and I'm sure you can just look at the stats of how many prison breaks happened before the shitty change and after Link to comment
Smee Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 It gets to the point cops specifically ask / text you do do some rebel activity. Squirtle and bunni like this Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 18 hours ago, massi said: This thread's sole purpose is to stir a civil discussion about bringing back pyrgos prison island The idea behind the thread is instead of switching to a location that nobody likes, we can just improve the old pyrgos prison. > Asks for civil discussion > Decides that out of everyone on an Asylum, not a single person likes the new prison. > Will probably QQ when someone disagrees Budbringer likes this Link to comment
Subaru Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 I miss the old prison island. I could do a prison break all alone with my Rook and a dream! Reformed Katheeri, Jwilly, Shepurd and 11 others like this Link to comment
Rafael Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Just bring the old one... pls Space, Steve and JAY1HP like this Link to comment
Alexey Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 #BringBackPyrgosPrison Space, criken5 and ^Connor_K like this Link to comment
Lucky Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 But you've tried this before right? And did it work? SO i dont think its working this time. Link to comment
Johnny Posted April 2, 2017 Report Share Posted April 2, 2017 (edited) Edited April 2, 2017 by Johnny Link to comment
Noble Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 @Gnashes First order of business, please bring back the old prison! FudgeR likes this Link to comment
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