Manolo Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Lately all my of my reports for RDM / VDM and even exploit have been denied. (which would have been action taken with the latest owners) We have Serial VDMers that go around Asylum with no weapons crashing into cars and running over people cause I guess they know they are not going to get banned. I understand a lax approach to the rules since we want to keep the population up but its causing a lot of issues for the fair players in the community. I know a few new players I was teaching how to farm just quit because they get VDM for no reason over and over again by the same people and everyday I see the same people causing the same problems. Whats the reason behind just a lax approach or better yet who do we report these mods too? Michael L likes this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 My mouth is watering, i can slam orcas into people again? Bifta, Scott, JAY1HP and 10 others like this Link to comment
Manolo Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, Midamaru said: My mouth is watering, i can slam orcas into people again? just not mods or admins or APD higher ups..Then you get banned on the spot! antwon, Crossfade and Google™ like this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, Manolo said: just not mods or admins or APD higher ups..Then you get banned on the spot! But they're the most fun Link to comment
Ronald Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 I'm not seeing the problem Corgi, Steve, JIMBO and 23 others like this Link to comment
they took the name eazy Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Well if your name starts with connor and ends in braindeadmcgregor, you only get 6 hour bans Link to comment
vedalkennnnnn Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) Have yet to be VDM'd only thing I'm annoyed about are those retards named Ray Person, and them just pulling up and fucking bounty hunting you Edited February 10, 2019 by vedalkennnnnn reeeee Big Fred likes this Link to comment
Cukofuko Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Not sure what kind of reports you are making but you can be assured that if a rule has been violated and enough evidence is provided the person will be dealt with. No matter their APD status Huan Lee and Patato like this Link to comment
Midamaru Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Kitui said: What if they like goats? FSA is disbanded Link to comment
Zoex Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Hey There, Looking into your recent reports which were denied, I do not see how they'd be approved during the previous ownership, or how the ownership change has anything to do with it, as nothing has changed regarding the way we handle reports. Also: If you submit a video that is less then 5 minutes prior to your death, expect your report to have no action taken, as it fails to follow our sufficient evidence policy. If you swing to the left side of the road and drive on the left lane intentionally to block someone who pursues you, and accuse him for VDM afterwards, be certain an action will not be taken against him. If you fail to lock your group and then call metagaming, perhaps you should figure out why we added the group password feature(as well as kicking). If your evidence is unavailable, again its going under insufficient evidence. To add on that, I can also see reports you have, also taken care of by mods, which have taken action on them due to the fact the proper evidence exists there, and an actual violation was commited. Hope that solves out some of the claims you make here, I'd also like to remind you that if you feel like you have any issue with any Admin/Mod, you may bring it up with one of our Community Managers @Mitch (IFRIT) Or @Leady, as they are here for that exact reason. Regards, Zoex Huan Lee, Innate, Crossfade and 13 others like this Link to comment
Bag Of Funyuns Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) I think you forgot to lock the thread. Edited February 10, 2019 by Bag Of Funyuns Link to comment
Zoex Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Bag Of Funyuns said: I think you forgot to lock the thread. Nope I did not intend to lock it, we get called North Korea if we do so lol. If it will derail I will. Huan Lee and Bag Of Funyuns like this Link to comment
saltyseemen Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 44 minutes ago, Zoex said: Nope I did not intend to lock it, we get called North Korea if we do so lol. If it will derail I will. Considering how toxic this community is your worried about being compared to N Korea..... Link to comment
pan fried Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Zoex said: If you submit a video that is less then 5 minutes prior to your death, expect your report to have no action taken, https://plays.tv/video/57377fdab1e88baaac/rdm-report?from=user this one got me banned for a day once ...@Manolo so if you lack the the sufficient amount of time I recommend you just add a couple of minutes screen time of yourself lying on the gound panting in your microphone like a retarded hamster ... because everyone likes animals Edited February 10, 2019 by Dex Chase Link to comment
Zoex Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, Dex Chase said: https://plays.tv/video/57377fdab1e88baaac/rdm-report?from=user this one once got me banned for a day once ...@Manolo so if you lack the the sufficient amount of time I recommend you just add a couple of minutes screen time of yourself lying on the gound panting in your microphone like a retarded hamster ... because everyone likes animals I obviously can't take over another admin's decision you know, but when 2 minutes of the video is him laying dead, I'm not taking action. Patato likes this Link to comment
Batcan Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) Once was rdmed and sent to jail through exploiting. The guy got a 12 hour ban and I sat in jail for 45 minutes. Easiest 100k of his life. Sometimes it's best to take the 1 day. Punishments are far too lenient and comp should be warranted for time wasted such as jail. Edited February 10, 2019 by Batcan .Casper likes this Link to comment
•ÐŠ• Randy Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Manolo said: Lately all my of my reports for RDM / VDM and even exploit have been denied. (which would have been action taken with the latest owners) I mean they are almost all of the same admins from before. I dont think clint and bada are telling them to deny bans. It just depends on the admin. also, rdm reports are automatically denied if you dont have the full 5 min. its always been that way. Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 I've reported people and they've gotten what I would consider a good amount of time off of the island for what they did. I like that things are more lenient than what they use to be. A lot of RDMs are not on purpose and things were miscommunicated in a ts/discord on who they had initiation with. Only blatant rdms should be punished heavily. Same goes for VDM as a lot of the time it's on accident. The old system created report wars because if you can't beat whatever gang you're fighting you can always just wait for them to slip up and have three days where you banned a member or two. I rather not go back to that. Big Fred likes this Link to comment
Manolo Posted February 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Zoex said: Hey There, Looking into your recent reports which were denied, I do not see how they'd be approved during the previous ownership, or how the ownership change has anything to do with it, as nothing has changed regarding the way we handle reports. Also: If you submit a video that is less then 5 minutes prior to your death, expect your report to have no action taken, as it fails to follow our sufficient evidence policy. If you swing to the left side of the road and drive on the left lane intentionally to block someone who pursues you, and accuse him for VDM afterwards, be certain an action will not be taken against him. If you fail to lock your group and then call metagaming, perhaps you should figure out why we added the group password feature(as well as kicking). If your evidence is unavailable, again its going under insufficient evidence. To add on that, I can also see reports you have, also taken care of by mods, which have taken action on them due to the fact the proper evidence exists there, and an actual violation was commited. Hope that solves out some of the claims you make here, I'd also like to remind you that if you feel like you have any issue with any Admin/Mod, you may bring it up with one of our Community Managers @Mitch (IFRIT) Or @Leady, as they are here for that exact reason. Regards, Zoex Zoex, The 1st RDM report was denied because i was missing 1 minute and I can understand that, but its common sense if Im talking to another one of his gang members and they are not red and this guy tells 3 of us hands up I have no idea who he is talking too because he never said my name. I haven't seen him around but he goes up to groups all the time and says hands up and shoots a random dude. I was only trying to teach him how to properly engage. The 2nd report was for exploit not VDM. We killed them at Rodo then because they were salty they kept respawning until they join our gang group 2 of them did this which you can see on the video. We did not have a group I was teaching new players and didn't want to deal with groups since they are still learning arma and asylum. These members were asked several times to leave the gang group and not only did they not leave they also used it to find us violating the Metagaming rules which you can see in the video clear as day. If they would not have Metagame there would be no chance of VDM .. correct? because they would not know where we are! Also a members of the Gang (SuperFarva) reported some one for VDM it was also denied because they said that our member came out of the vehicle 1 sec prior to him driving by. I can understand that part but the VDMer drove back and forth on his body until he killed him and that is the definition of VDM. If it was not for this VDM this member would of gotten away with a hemmit box truck of jewlery which his comp report was also denied. See below. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/378740563?filter=highlights&sort=time There are 2 other similar VDM report from members that no longer play because they were tired of getting VDM and the VDMers are still out there doing it every day! Saying sorry it was an accident or coming up with another excuse! I also did reach out to a community Manager and there was no response and this is why this post was created. The comment about prior admins being different just refers to the same admin that is denying our reports, we never dealt with him before. I appreciate you looking into it! Edited February 11, 2019 by Manolo Link to comment
Cukofuko Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Batcan said: Once was rdmed and sent to jail through exploiting. The guy got a 12 hour ban and I sat in jail for 45 minutes. Easiest 100k of his life. Sometimes it's best to take the 1 day. Punishments are far too lenient and comp should be warranted for time wasted such as jail. Ban duration is dependant on the severity and prior amount of bans for the same reason. However if you think earning 100k while getting banned is a good way of making money, well then you do you chief. Just dont come cryin Link to comment
TRYHARD Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Just now, Cukofuko said: Ban duration is dependant on the severity and prior amount of bans for the same reason. However if you think earning 100k while getting banned is a good way of making money, well then you do you chief. Just dont come cryin He has a point. Admins should really start taking money/prestige from accounts if they RDM to get a bounty. Batcan likes this Link to comment
Cukofuko Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 31 minutes ago, TRYHARD said: He has a point. Admins should really start taking money/prestige from accounts if they RDM to get a bounty. They should, however thats not on us to decide. We only enforce the rules Link to comment
Jin Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 BRING BACK QUADBIKES WITH AA GUNS ATTACHED. That should solve your VDM crisis. #MakeAsylumGreatAgain TNT, Masonn, Zoex and 3 others like this Link to comment
Big Fred Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Jin said: BRING BACK QUADBIKES WITH AA GUNS ATTACHED. That should solve your VDM crisis. #MakeAsylumGreatAgain This man need more likes. Link to comment
Manolo Posted February 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 9:43 PM, Manolo said: Zoex, Also a members of the Gang (SuperFarva) reported some one for VDM it was also denied because they said that our member came out of the vehicle 1 sec prior to him driving by. I can understand that part but the VDMer drove back and forth on his body until he killed him and that is the definition of VDM. If it was not for this VDM this member would of gotten away with a hemmit box truck of jewlery which his comp report was also denied. See below. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/378740563?filter=highlights&sort=time Link to comment
Brothertom Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) This is what they just gave me as a reason for no action taken "No action taken Reason: You need to provide at least 5 minutes of footage prior to being downed/killed in order for us to determine if this is RDM. You have 4:51 footage prior to being killed. Please see below for our sufficient evidence policy:" gotta switch it to 10 minutes on shadowplay i guess, my god. Edited February 15, 2019 by Brothertom Link to comment
Big Fred Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Brothertom said: This is what they just gave me as a reason for no action taken "No action taken Reason: You need to provide at least 5 minutes of footage prior to being downed/killed in order for us to determine if this is RDM. You have 4:51 footage prior to being killed. Please see below for our sufficient evidence policy:" gotta switch it to 10 minutes on shadowplay i guess, my god. That's because the aggro timer is exactly 5 minutes, you imbecil. What's not to say you just edited out the text message reading "hands up or die" because you salty? Set Shadowplay to 6 minutes and upload the raw video to youtube. Boom, done. Stop wasting admins time. Link to comment
Brothertom Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Big Fred said: That's because the aggro timer is exactly 5 minutes, you imbecil. What's not to say you just edited out the text message reading "hands up or die" because you salty? Set Shadowplay to 6 minutes and upload the raw video to youtube. Boom, done. Stop wasting admins time. I've been playing here a while, reported a lot of people using 5 minute shadowplay. Sometimes taken longer than zero seconds to decide whether or not what just happened was against the rules, and no one had a problem with that until today. But okay i guess, 5 minutes down to the fucking second now. Edited February 16, 2019 by Brothertom Link to comment
Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) On 2/10/2019 at 6:43 PM, Manolo said: The 2nd report was for exploit not VDM. We killed them at Rodo then because they were salty they kept respawning until they join our gang group 2 of them did this which you can see on the video. We did not have a group I was teaching new players and didn't want to deal with groups since they are still learning arma and asylum. These members were asked several times to leave the gang group and not only did they not leave they also used it to find us violating the Metagaming rules which you can see in the video clear as day. If they would not have Metagame there would be no chance of VDM .. correct? because they would not know where we are! There's a reason you can create a group pw so what they did is not exploiting/metagaming like you think. If they had that glitch where they can see your group w/out actually getting in while it's locked then you'd have a case. Edit: nm i see you said gang group so yeah if they glitched in I don't see why no action wasnt taken. Stuff like that should be instaban if they use it to kill you. I'm guessing their reasoning is you could have created a group to get around it so it's your fault. Edited February 16, 2019 by Hanzo/Dirty Scrubz Link to comment
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