Drones

[王 rando 王]

• Limit the amount of drones that can be pulled at a time.
  • Currently there's a seemingly endless amount of drones fucking everywhere. Sometimes multiple drones hovering over a single city or area.
  • I think 2 drones on the entire map at one time should be the limit.
• Add a time limit on a drone.
  • It's kind of ridiculous when they leave not just one drone but two sitting a kilometer above an illegal area and they can sit there forever.
  • Add a timer for the life of a drone, IE: after 10 minutes of use the drone has to charge for 25 minutes
• Increase the price of drones.
  • Idk what they cost now but it's not enough if they're being pulled all the fucking time like this.

just 2 drones chillin above african warlord, i think theyre best friends

[Austin M]

9 minutes ago, 王 rando 王 said:

• Limit the amount of drones that can be pulled at a time.
  • Currently there's a seemingly endless amount of drones fucking everywhere. Sometimes multiple drones hovering over a single city or area.
  • I think 2 drones on the entire map at one time should be the limit.
• Add a time limit on a drone.
  • It's kind of ridiculous when they leave not just one drone but two sitting a kilometer above an illegal area and they can sit there forever.
  • Add a timer for the life of a drone, IE: after 10 minutes of use the drone has to charge for 25 minutes
• Increase the price of drones.
  • Idk what they cost now but it's not enough if they're being pulled all the fucking time like this.

Im only going to include current guidebook policies and only that.

Sgts only have access to the ar2 darter
Lts are the ones with the copter drones
 

Both ranks are only allowed 1 active drone at a time
And they may not patrol illegal areas.
 

I guess I will throw in that both drones can be disabled with a p07

[王 rando 王]

9 minutes ago, Austin M said:

Im only going to include current guidebook policies and only that.

Sgts only have access to the ar2 darter
Lts are the ones with the copter drones
 

Both ranks are only allowed 1 active drone at a time
And they may not patrol illegal areas.
 

I guess I will throw in that both drones can be disabled with a p07

literally a pic of 2 copter drones at a redzone. (you don't have to have the drone within the red circle if you're high enough)

copter drones sitting a kilometer away isn't getting shot down by a p07, couldnt even shotgun it at that distance.

i'm sorry i cannot rely on your policies. developer restrictions are required.

Edited April 17 by 王 rando 王
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[Crossfade]

I guess I will throw in that both drones can be disabled with a p07

where can we buy the po7 that shoots 1km up 1km out? need one of those...

[Austin M]

1 hour ago, Crossfade said:

I guess I will throw in that both drones can be disabled with a p07

where can we buy the po7 that shoots 1km up 1km out? need one of those...

The point is that they are weak, redemption likes to fly up and shoot them down on sight.

[王 rando 王]

5 minutes ago, Austin M said:

The point is that they are weak, redemption likes to fly up and shoot them down on sight.

yea but these are at red zones. or well right outside the red zone but high enough to still look into the red zone...

[Chris Peacock]

1 hour ago, 王 rando 王 said:

yea but these are at red zones. or well right outside the red zone but high enough to still look into the red zone...

Looking into a redzone with a drone is not allowed

[Kawaii]

10 minutes ago, Chris Peacock said:

Looking into a redzone with a drone is not allowed

It is happening very often and tilde key only gives the names of NPCs, so it is hard to hold anyone responsible for it

[MoLu.]

endorse

[snoop]

3 hours ago, Austin M said:

The point is that they are weak, redemption likes to fly up and shoot them down on sight.

GANGSTA

[王 rando 王]

5 hours ago, Chris Peacock said:

Looking into a redzone with a drone is not allowed

nigga like that retard chief of police just said only 1 active drone is allowed too and yet there’s a picture of 2 active copter drones sitting at African warlord.

Maybe rub a couple brain cells together holy fuck. Policy doesn’t mean anything. 80% of cops shadow search vehicles without probable cause. And abusing drones is even easier than that to get away with because for a civ there’s no way to see who’s drone it even is.

[Chris Peacock]

1 hour ago, 王 rando 王 said:

nigga like that retard chief of police just said only 1 active drone is allowed too and yet there’s a picture of 2 active copter drones sitting at African warlord.

Maybe rub a couple brain cells together holy fuck. Policy doesn’t mean anything. 80% of cops shadow search vehicles without probable cause. And abusing drones is even easier than that to get away with because for a civ there’s no way to see who’s drone it even is.

1 active drone per officer. Perhaps rub a couple brain cells together and see which higherups are online and make an IA and I’m sure the higher ups and even admins if needed can deal with it accordingly. 

[王 rando 王]

10 minutes ago, Chris Peacock said:

1 active drone per officer. Perhaps rub a couple brain cells together and see which higherups are online and make an IA and I’m sure the higher ups and even admins if needed can deal with it accordingly. 

yea lets report the higher ups to the higher ups 😂

lmao bro think for 2 seconds, if theyre already willing to break policy for this u think they wont just dismiss a report on themselves.

developers just need to do some developing and make it not possible. and 1 drone for every sgt and lt is ridiculous, 2 at a time on the map should be the limit. you niggas aint the kgb.

why altis need more drones then ukraine bro

[Chris Peacock]

33 minutes ago, 王 rando 王 said:

yea lets report the higher ups to the higher ups 😂

lmao bro think for 2 seconds, if theyre already willing to break policy for this u think they wont just dismiss a report on themselves.

developers just need to do some developing and make it not possible. and 1 drone for every sgt and lt is ridiculous, 2 at a time on the map should be the limit. you niggas aint the kgb.

why altis need more drones then ukraine bro

They dont get reports on themselves bro what??? The only APD members can don’t have to follow the guidebook are captains everyone else is held just as accountable. If u report an LT it’ll go to the captains. I’m not even high enough rank to use them and I think the drones are fair. What decides what officer is allowed to use them?

[王 rando 王]

in 10 years I dont think ive ever seen an LT ever get a punishment from a Captain, the closest you get is when someone publicly posts what they did on the forums and they get publicly shamed by everyone except the people that matters. these LTs been sucking their captains dick for years to get where they are, captains are going to remember that when someone reports them. and yea drones are totally fair, the other day there were 2 copter drones, a small drone, and a little drone car thing all in athira at the same time. this isn't ukraine, cap the drones.

and if drones are capped obviously it'd be first come first serve.

IE: You go to pull out a drone then either

• A: There's less than 2 drones currently active so you're able to pull out your drone (which should have a lifespan of 10 minutes)

or

• B: There's 2 drones currently active so you have to wait (at most 10 minutes since there should be a 25 minute break for the drone to charge) to pull your drone.

[Wutang]

Maaaaan APD can’t have nuffin 

[王 rando 王]

2 minutes ago, Wutang said:

Maaaaan APD can’t have nuffin 

nobody is saying remove the drones. im saying limit them. how retarded do you have to be to deny that theres a problem here.

 

but hey i'm flexible, lets make a compromise.

Give civs the same drones and we'll call it even.

 

No? don't like that?

[Wutang]

5 minutes ago, 王 rando 王 said:

nobody is saying remove the drones. im saying limit them. how retarded do you have to be to deny that theres a problem here.

 

but hey i'm flexible, lets make a compromise.

Give civs the same drones and we'll call it even.

 

No? don't like that?

I’ve used a drone maybe 3 times. I could care less if they add more policy about them. But as stated before record and repot if you think a rule was broken 

[王 rando 王]

10 minutes ago, Wutang said:

I’ve used a drone maybe 3 times. I could care less if they add more policy about them. But as stated before record and repot if you think a rule was broken 

adding policy is useless. policy and rules are made to be broken, i want it prevented by developers. i have more faith in fitz than any apd officer

Edited April 17 by 王 rando 王

[Wutang]

20 minutes ago, 王 rando 王 said:

adding policy is useless. policy and rules are made to be broken, i want it prevented by developers. i have more faith in fitz than any apd officer

Can’t speak for the devs but it seems like a waste of time to code something that can be fixed by implementing more policy and can be one shot by every gun. But keep fighting your fight 

[zdeat]

There already is a "timer" there's like 20 minutes of fuel available.

There's already a limit per our policy. One active drone per Sgt+.

The drones are 15k and are made of paper... why am I gonna money sink 15k every time just for some rat to shoot it out of the sky.

Also why complain about this now? Drones have been used a lot more and a lot longer than you think, the only difference now is that youre able to easily see them more.

 

Ive seen Lts get spanked numerous times, its just not public information on what happens to them. Like everyone else says, record and report it man idk what else you think should happen.

Edited April 17 by zdeat

[Wutang]

2 minutes ago, zdeat said:

 

Ive seen Lts get spanked numerous times

 

[王 rando 王]

Just now, zdeat said:

idk what else you think should happen.

the thing i've only said 4 times on this topic

Cap the drones at 2 on the map at any one time, I've yet to have anyone try to argue with this specific thing. It's almost like they know having eyes in the sky 24/7 everywhere they go is a crazy advantage. And yes I said "they" because everyone who has tried arguing this cops who'd be hurt if they couldn't have 24/7 satellite imaging.

2 minutes ago, zdeat said:

The drones are 15k and are made of paper... why am I gonna money sink 15k every time just for some rat to shoot it out of the sky.

sitting a kilometer in the sky it doesnt matter if it's made of paper...

3 minutes ago, zdeat said:

There already is a "timer" there's like 20 minutes of fuel available.

so there isn't a timer. you just spend 20 seconds every 20 minutes refueling it?

7 minutes ago, zdeat said:

Ive seen Lts get spanked numerous times

 

4 minutes ago, Wutang said:

6 minutes ago, zdeat said:

 

Ive seen Lts get spanked numerous times

 

can u name literally one time where they lost rank or were removed from the apd due to an IA report, not someone publicly shaming them on the forums and action was forced to be taken due to public opinion?

[zdeat]

7 minutes ago, 王 rando 王 said:

can u name literally one time where they lost rank or were removed from the apd due to an IA report

If a Cpt says i can give out that information sure. But you also have to remember that not every IA's action taken is points, removals or BL. Sometimes all that needs to be done is a talking to and a "Hey man dont do this again."

10 minutes ago, 王 rando 王 said:

Cap the drones at 2 on the map at any one time

Yeah I just don't have an argument for this tbh. Also remember that these drones are LT+ that you're complaining about, I think its just one more thing to add to the list of "Don't do this when there's an LT on."

8 minutes ago, 王 rando 王 said:

so there isn't a timer. you just spend 20 seconds every 20 minutes refueling it?

That's if you remember to catch it before it runs out of fuel, but yes. 

9 minutes ago, 王 rando 王 said:

sitting a kilometer in the sky it doesnt matter if it's made of paper...

How else are they to be used then? If they're made of paper of course I'm going to put it 500m / 2km up.

 

[王 rando 王]

15 minutes ago, zdeat said:

How else are they to be used then? If they're made of paper of course I'm going to put it 500m / 2km up.

i couldn't care less how high your drone is if the amount of drones active at one time were capped.

17 minutes ago, zdeat said:

If a Cpt says i can give out that information sure. But you also have to remember that not every IA's action taken is points, removals or BL. Sometimes all that needs to be done is a talking to and a "Hey man dont do this again."

and yea that's never getting talked about again then lol

17 minutes ago, zdeat said:

Yeah I just don't have an argument for this tbh. Also remember that these drones are LT+ that you're complaining about, I think its just one more thing to add to the list of "Don't do this when there's an LT on."

Don't do what? exist? lmao are u saying don't be anywhere there's not a roof over your head if there's an LT online?

 

And just incase anyone is getting misconceptions about what I'm asking here.

I do not want drones to be removed, I am all for new content. I just want the amount of drones capped. Currently by policy every SGT and LT can have an active drone at the same time. How many SGTs and LTs are there, let me answer for you: a fucking lot.

 

And I'm sure the powers that be who read this thread are going to see oh wow this idea is getting a lot of hate, everyone against it is the faction who is going to be upset if they lose their big advantage.

 

key takeaway: the police does not need satellite imaging everywhere all the time.

[zdeat]

8 minutes ago, 王 rando 王 said:

I do not want drones to be removed, I am all for new content. I just want the amount of drones capped. Currently by policy every SGT and LT can have an active drone at the same time. How many SGTs and LTs are there, let me answer for you: a fucking lot.

Yea I get what youre saying im just kinda arguing for the cops on this.

But the Copter drone [ Pictured in your screenshot in the post ] is only for LT, we also have a semi useless Stomper drone that cant be used for anything other than to waste time or RP. Sgts get the Darter drone [ The tiny drone that goes like 10m / sec. ] I could set the darter to go 500m up and youll never know its there. As a civ, id much rather know by being able to see the drone in the sky, and not go to the area that the drone is circling. If anything its sorta helping you guys, if that makes sense? 

[Sandwich]

47 minutes ago, 王 rando 王 said:

 

and yea that's never getting talked about again then lol

You note to not mention times LTs got publicly shamed on the forums yet are asking to call out LTs right now which will then publicly shame them on the forums lol.

Without derailing this thread more, LTs have absolutely been punished in multiple ways as zdeat has mentioned, over many years. It happens every now and then. No you won’t get names. That’s public shaming. It’s not meant to be a “HEY GUYS, THIS LT FUCKED UP!!!! LOL”. It’s “internal” affairs for a reason. 

Other APD staff can see when an LT gets slapped with something beyond a talk via their app (points, etc). Same with other APD staff in similar situations. That’s embarrassing enough of the time to not get them to do shit again since their peers take note of it. 

[Samperino]

13 hours ago, 王 rando 王 said:

2 copter drones at a redzone. (you don't have to have the drone within the red circle if you're high enough)

I'll expand on this part a bit.

I know I've pulled a drone a couple times and I go to have it follow one of my officers in pursuit of something, and they end up dying so the drone just stops and then I get side tracked and don't end up re-tracking the drone so it just stays stationary.

I can guarantee you that nobody is using drones to patrol illegal areas. It may look like it at times with the above situation I mentioned, but it's just not happening. Nobody is sitting on their drones looking down with the turret at illegal areas.

We could probably take better steps to make sure they're not stopped near redzones when the drones aren't in use.

If you do ever find that there are drones above the red zone you're at and cops end up strolling in, record it and report it for sure in Internal Affairs.

[王 rando 王]

1 minute ago, Sandwich said:

You note to not mention times LTs got publicly shamed on the forums yet are asking to call out LTs right now which will then publicly shame them on the forums lol.

Without derailing this thread more, LTs have absolutely been punished in multiple ways as zdeat has mentioned, over many years. It happens every now and then. No you won’t get names. That’s public shaming. It’s not meant to be a “HEY GUYS, THIS LT FUCKED UP!!!! LOL”. It’s “internal” affairs for a reason  

Other APD staff can see when an LT gets slapped with something beyond a talk via their app (points, etc). That’s embarrassing enough of the time to not get them to do shit again since their peers take not of it. 

I said name literally one, could of been a retired LT that hasn't been on the server in 5 years for all I cared. But yea the literally verbal warning thing is exactly what I was getting at. And when I said consequences to an LT due to public shaming I meant when a civilian posts it on the forums because from the perspective of a civ IA reports are useless, especially if it's a verbal warning or whatever.

 

But rest assured this post wasn't supposed to be about the dick sucking cycle that is the APD, it was about the developers coding actual restrictions to prevent the need for the whole useless APD policy bullshit.

[zdeat]

I don't know man, at the end of the day yall have to exploit to get people over there so I think its kind of funny you're talking about us as APD Lts breaking rules and not being bound to rules. Why don't we start with not exploiting first and the Devs / Cpts could possibly talk about changing a few things?

Edited April 17 by zdeat

[王 rando 王]

24 minutes ago, zdeat said:

I don't know man, at the end of the day yall have to exploit to get people over there so I think its kind of funny you're talking about us as APD Lts breaking rules and not being bound to rules. Why don't we start with not exploiting first and the Devs / Cpts could possibly talk about changing a few things?

what? lmao

can u stop derailing my post, thanks

[Chris Peacock]

2 hours ago, zdeat said:

I don't know man, at the end of the day yall have to exploit to get people over there so I think its kind of funny you're talking about us as APD Lts breaking rules and not being bound to rules. Why don't we start with not exploiting first and the Devs / Cpts could possibly talk about changing a few things?

Exploiting what?

[GravL]

what i find wild is how often, even for useless fights, they are used now. before, i would've never seen them randomly. but i was involved in a DP11 fight last night and there was a drone, before that i've only ever seen them used at fed events, and very rarely.

Edited April 17 by GravL

[Samperino]

33 minutes ago, GravL said:

what i find wild is how often, even for useless fights, they are used now. before, i would've never seen them randomly. but i was involved in a DP11 fight last night and there was a drone, before that i've only ever seen them used at fed events, and very rarely.

They're new, they're cool. In a week or two you'll never see them again.

[Sheriff Rick]

17 hours ago, Chris Peacock said:

1 active drone per officer. Perhaps rub a couple brain cells together and see which higherups are online and make an IA and I’m sure the higher ups and even admins if needed can deal with it accordingly. 

Who are you gonna report if you can't even see who owns the drone?  Just hope someone will fess up?

[Repto]

Idk... I can see how it would look frustrating but the biggest thing already mentioned before, after a few weeks they will be nearly as extinct as the dinosaurs again.

I personally don't use drones anymore but back to a time where I did, another thing is the majority of the lifespan of a drone is mainly just spent in the air auto hovering and looking pretty. Sure it absolutely is nice and insightful when the user gets more than a few seconds to a minute to actually pop on cam and take a look around, especially in a big gunfight though not all to commonly the case on our end having to deal with the battle ourselves and keeping track of others, Most SGT+'s don't manual fly them either unless we are dicking around or trying to do something precise honestly, and ordering the drones around on the terminal constantly is pretty micromanaged to where often times they are just set to hover high in some random place until they are needed, sure they may sometimes be peeked into whenever bored but mostly just in a placeholder spot.

As for the current issues being mentioned, I see them get close to illegal zones (generally the same distance a helicopter is required to be from the center) but I've never heard talks of them being used to look into those zones in comms. I don't doubt that it probably does happen, I just never heard of it happening personally. Don't really see much reason to add extra mechanics alongside the current policies 🤷‍♂️ Gods forbid the APD is actually an opposing force every once in a while.

[Chris Peacock]

1 hour ago, Sheriff Rick said:

Who are you gonna report if you can't even see who owns the drone?  Just hope someone will fess up?

Well if there is 1 higherup online and 2 drones it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see who to report

[curley]

19 hours ago, Chris Peacock said:

Well if there is 1 higherup online and 2 drones it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see who to report

also keep in mind there is a log of us buying drones if it gets investigated and we are breaking rules we get the stick 

[Akula]

2 minutes ago, curley said:

also keep in mind there is a log of us buying drones if it gets investigated and we are breaking rules we get the stick 

[Patato]

On 4/18/2024 at 5:53 PM, curley said:

also keep in mind there is a log of us buying drones if it gets investigated and we are breaking rules we get the stick 

For any SGT's who may need my services. Were offering half off on drone related cases