Zurph Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) I feel the blur is a little to strong and now its just a tilde AHK fight in smokes. (Current) Edited December 15, 2021 by Zurph Voodoo and Swae like this Link to comment
Infamous [FULL SEND] Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 this shit was added for a reason nigga, i'd rather feel like I have the vision of hellen keller than get shot by some virgin who is sitting on a smoke can. -1 Voodoo, Bherky and Joshhh like this Link to comment
JakeAP Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 Definitely agree, just reduce it tbh no blur is kinda aids.. Link to comment
Infamous [FULL SEND] Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 tbh to double back on this, lowkey you right with it. but still something needs to be done to stop smoke exploiting, if you can think of something to fix that I'd agree Link to comment
Zurph Posted December 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 Names should be removed while in smoke as well imo, probably should of added that to an option sorry. Nicolas March and KrazyKnight like this Link to comment
FudgeR Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) never remove names olympus tried it and had to go back bro people can literally lay down in a corner and you will never see them unless you are standing right on him just reduce it a bit, i prefer running around like this rather than sitting in canisters tbh Edited December 15, 2021 by FudgeR Bera, Voodoo, Nicolas March and 2 others like this Link to comment
Oskarr Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 people actually run around holding tilde key wtf? Proud and Voodoo like this Link to comment
Joe King Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) Remove ~ script in dom, literally no reason for it to be in there. Cant tell you how many times I've been gunned down though 4 layers of smoke just because some faggot is pressing ~. It defeats the whole purpose of it and just makes it aids to fight for the people who don't have to rely on it. Edited December 15, 2021 by Joe King Kraken likes this Link to comment
Abu Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, Joe King said: Remove ~ script in dom, literally no reason for it to be in there. Cant tell you how many times I've been gunned down though 4 layers of smoke just because some faggot is pressing ~. It defeats the whole purpose of it and just makes it aids to fight for the people who don't have to rely on it. retard Tyrone Darnell likes this Link to comment
Joe King Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Abu said: retard no your right asylum dom is 1000* better than oly conq. it shows in the numbers. Edited December 15, 2021 by Joe King Proud likes this Link to comment
thero Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 I think its a problem when smoke fights are 99% based on what names you can see using tilde, and 1% actually seeing a player's body and shooting at them. Like you said it is literally just a tilde AHK fight and whoever sees a name pop up in the smoke first gets the kill. Reducing blur would definitely be a step in the right direction. IMO ifrit smokes should just be removed until somebody finds a reasonable way to prevent smoke exploiting, but obviously that would never happen because then everybody would just roach outside of the cap with free shots on people fighting it. I am starting to think that this 8+ year old mil-sim game was never intended for a domination type format with people fighting in literal clouds of ifrit smoke lol Joe King likes this Link to comment
FudgeR Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Joe King said: no your right asylum dom is 1000* better than oly conq. it shows in the numbers. my friend dom and conquest have around the same 60. also if you play olympus you know you can just sit on canisters and watch people just run in the smoke and kill everyone without them having an idea of where you are Voodoo and Proud like this Link to comment
Joe King Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 @FudgeR Fair but they put in a blur themselves that isn't aids like asylum. I wouldn't have a problem with the blur if we couldn't ~ script in the smoke. Also cant they just make the canisters invis? Link to comment
FilipinoBusinessman Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 SMOKE IS FOR PUSSY. hiding in smoke! getting a cheapshot you stupid loser! REMOVE SMOKE!!! THATS BETTER LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL Proud and Vanilla Coke like this Link to comment
544heu Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) There is nothing wrong with the way it is. I just ran around and never have pressed tilde in my life. There is a reason this was added because people just SIT on smoke canisters and ABUSE it and THAT IS X100 TIMES WORSE than the current meta. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING. 9 hours ago, Oskarr said: people actually run around holding tilde key wtf? I have never heard once of people doing this. Also to add, removing names is a terrible idea you are catering the esping fags. No one spectates on domination and you are just giving the cheaters a bigger advantage because having names in smoke at least somewhat evens the playing field. Edited December 15, 2021 by tom Abu and Voodoo like this Link to comment
GirthyMeatPiece Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 theres reason olympus conquest has more pop than the dom server and the main server they listen to what we want we are the people playing not them its how the server is gonna die if ur not taking the feedback to improve the server its gonna go down the drain why olympus listen and literally sort it instantly dont not change it cause some buthurt kid is crying that he likes to be blurred like a freak theres a vote its more peoples opinion to reduce it Joe King likes this Link to comment
FudgeR Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, thero said: I think its a problem when smoke fights are 99% based on what names you can see using tilde, and 1% actually seeing a player's body and shooting at them. Like you said it is literally just a tilde AHK fight and whoever sees a name pop up in the smoke first gets the kill. Reducing blur would definitely be a step in the right direction. IMO ifrit smokes should just be removed until somebody finds a reasonable way to prevent smoke exploiting, but obviously that would never happen because then everybody would just roach outside of the cap with free shots on people fighting it. I am starting to think that this 8+ year old mil-sim game was never intended for a domination type format with people fighting in literal clouds of ifrit smoke lol wait thero, you’re back?🤑 Edited December 15, 2021 by FudgeR Link to comment
Proud Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 reduce blur a bit n perfect Link to comment
Junke Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 hours ago, tom said: Also to add, removing names is a terrible idea you are catering the esping fags. No one spectates on domination and you are just giving the cheaters a bigger advantage because having names in smoke at least somewhat evens the playing field. Bruh, by keeping smoke blur its catering to the esping fags even more. you don't have slick here to ride your coat tails and listen to everything envy wants now bub theres a reason why the servers dead Joe King likes this Link to comment
thero Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, FudgeR said: wait thero, you’re back?🤑 Kind of, idk for how long tho bc the actual asylum server is soooo dead and dom seems like it’s going to end up the same way with all of these bans Link to comment
544heu Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, Junker said: theres a reason why the servers dead The server is dead because Slick was carrying the whole dev team and he got tired of pushing out updates by himself and getting nothing in return for it. Server was full pop when he was trying. Link to comment
KrazyKnight Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, tom said: The server is dead because Slick was carrying the whole dev team and he got tired of pushing out updates by himself and getting nothing in return for it. Server was full pop when he was trying. I feel like lack of transparency has a role to play too tbh. Link to comment
Bherky Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 Whatever the current percentage of blur it is, just do 75% of that. Reduce smoke blur by 25% or 15% of what it is now and let's test it. We tested different blurs before dom came out and the smallest tweaks were pretty game changing but that was a while ago so I can't recall exactly how bad the smoke exploiting was. I can play around the blur but I've noticed that the edges of smoke are blurred even though you are barely in it. I'm not sure if its possible, but make the radius of the smoke blur much closer to the actual canister itself and not so much in the smoke surrounding. Ban anyone standing on canisters as well, it's pretty obvious when someone is blatantly smoke exploiting. Abu and Joe King like this Link to comment
Blake. Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, tom said: The server is dead because Slick was carrying the whole dev team and he got tired of pushing out updates by himself and getting nothing in return for it. Server was full pop when he was trying. go to the bathroom and clean up, looks like you have some slick dripping off your chin. Copa, Big Gay Jay, FudgeR and 2 others like this Link to comment
chrome. Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 Get esp instead, you can see everyone! Trust me its fun! Rycheee, Walt and Ryan. like this Link to comment
Big Gay Jay Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Bherky said: Whatever the current percentage of blur it is, just do 75% of that. Reduce smoke blur by 25% or 15% of what it is now and let's test it. We tested different blurs before dom came out and the smallest tweaks were pretty game changing but that was a while ago so I can't recall exactly how bad the smoke exploiting was. I can play around the blur but I've noticed that the edges of smoke are blurred even though you are barely in it. I'm not sure if its possible, but make the radius of the smoke blur much closer to the actual canister itself and not so much in the smoke surrounding. Ban anyone standing on canisters as well, it's pretty obvious when someone is blatantly smoke exploiting. we tested different %'s before the original dom and even changing it by like 5% was drastic so finding that "perfect" number isn't going to be easy Link to comment
KrazyKnight Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, Big Gay Jay said: we tested different %'s before the original dom and even changing it by like 5% was drastic so finding that "perfect" number isn't going to be easy Have you tried 4%? Vanilla Coke, 王 rando 王 and Swae like this Link to comment
Vanilla Coke Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Bherky said: I can play around the blur but I've noticed that the edges of smoke are blurred even though you are barely in it. I think it has something to do with where your camera is positioned relative to the canister, and not where your character is positioned relative to the canister, in that case at least. Also, these people saying no one runs around holding tilde, you are oblivious to think that Matt spamming tilde in side chat every time he types is just a coincidence. I found out probably a month after I came back that I could still tilde people through hills, so I made a macro on my mouse that would spam tilde for me. The macro also proved useful for seeing names through smokes. A lot of people either have software for their mouse or keyboard that lets them spam a certain key at whatever intervals or are using an AHK script to do the same thing. Just look at any recent montage on Asylum, if there are names under friendly hexes 100% of the time, they are probably using something to spam tilde for them. Whether it's akin to cheating or not isn't up to me, but the fact that tilde even works that way is fucked in and of itself. Note that it's literally impossible to do this on Olympus, because the names are proximity-based. No amount of tilde-spamming helps on that server. I really don't know why Asylum doesn't have this on the domination server as well, considering long-range tilde usage is mostly for initiation purposes. On domination you can't even get names without bino's because everyone is wearing a mask, and there is no initiation, so getting a tilde from far away is pretty much useless. Bherky and Bera like this Link to comment
Big Gay Jay Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Vanilla Coke said: I think it has something to do with where your camera is positioned relative to the canister, and not where your character is positioned relative to the canister, in that case at least. Also, these people saying no one runs around holding tilde, you are oblivious to think that Matt spamming tilde in side chat every time he types is just a coincidence. I found out probably a month after I came back that I could still tilde people through hills, so I made a macro on my mouse that would spam tilde for me. The macro also proved useful for seeing names through smokes. A lot of people either have software for their mouse or keyboard that lets them spam a certain key at whatever intervals or are using an AHK script to do the same thing. Just look at any recent montage on Asylum, if there are names under friendly hexes 100% of the time, they are probably using something to spam tilde for them. Whether it's akin to cheating or not isn't up to me, but the fact that tilde even works that way is fucked in and of itself. Note that it's literally impossible to do this on Olympus, because the names are proximity-based. No amount of tilde-spamming helps on that server. I really don't know why Asylum doesn't have this on the domination server as well, considering long-range tilde usage is mostly for initiation purposes. On domination you can't even get names without bino's because everyone is wearing a mask, and there is no initiation, so getting a tilde from far away is pretty much useless. if im remember correctly it's scripted as an area of effect around the cannister so whatever the range is around the cannister would be blurred and sometimes smokes get pushed so there is times where you aren't blurred in smoke and blurred out of smoke Link to comment
Oskarr Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 13 hours ago, tom said: There is nothing wrong with the way it is. I just ran around and never have pressed tilde in my life. There is a reason this was added because people just SIT on smoke canisters and ABUSE it and THAT IS X100 TIMES WORSE than the current meta. DO NOT CHANGE ANYTHING. I have never heard once of people doing this. Also to add, removing names is a terrible idea you are catering the esping fags. No one spectates on domination and you are just giving the cheaters a bigger advantage because having names in smoke at least somewhat evens the playing field. deadass i dont think tilde does shit i have never held that shit down in smoke and my shit looks exactly the same as everyone elses Invictus likes this Link to comment
MoLu. Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 If a person has six fingers, I don't mind if they can press "~" all the time.🤣 jsh likes this Link to comment
Ryan. Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Molu said: If a person has six fingers, I don't mind if they can press "~" all the time.🤣 What he said Link to comment
王 rando 王 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 tilde never works when I’m trying to get some niggas name though to initiate on. Link to comment
Joe King Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 11:53 PM, Molu said: If a person has six fingers, I don't mind if they can press "~" all the time.🤣 You can set a macro for it FilipinoBusinessman likes this Link to comment
FilipinoBusinessman Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Remove the blur Remove the name in smoke i think that is fair Link to comment
Junke Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 On 12/19/2021 at 11:18 PM, FilipinoBusinessman said: Remove the blur Remove the name in smoke i think that is fair removing names in smoke only benefits people with esp. Link to comment
Tyrone Darnell Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Junker said: removing names in smoke only benefits people with esp. perfect for me Junke likes this Link to comment
MoLu. Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Tyrone Darnell said: 适合我 yoooooooooo Tyrone Darnell likes this Link to comment
Tyrone Darnell Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, Molu said: yoooooooooo wo ai ni MoLu. likes this Link to comment
FilipinoBusinessman Posted December 22, 2021 Report Share Posted December 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Junker said: removing names in smoke only benefits people with esp. theres a lot of ppl using esp in the server junke. 3 hours ago, Tyrone Darnell said: perfect for me yes sir 5 hours ago, Junker said: removing names in smoke only benefits people with esp. thats the real problem there lol. so manyyy theyre obvious. FOR FAIR PLAY. What about JUST SHOW THE NAME? SO we whos not using cheat or esp or any special software can fight fairly with the cheaters? JUST SHOW THE NAME!!! and let us do the kill Link to comment
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