***Addressing Community Lag***

[Akula]

We understand that network vulnerabilities exploited by certain players have been frustrating for many of you. To improve the overall gameplay experience, we are looking into making adjustments to manage packet loss more effectively. Over the next few days, we will be testing these changes to see how well they work. If this solution doesn't adequately address the issue, we may consider implementing stricter ping restrictions.

In essence, we are developing a system that will remove players from the game if their packet loss is too high. If this system isn't enough to prevent network issues from being exploited, we will seriously consider implementing stricter ping restrictions.

Thank you for your patience and understanding as we work to enhance your gaming experience.

[Donald]

RIP chinamen

[Maxx__]

Little too late for this Moderator @HunterB

[Akula]

ZIP IT PORKCHOP. I ain't a dev, this is beyond my comprehension lol.  Azeh is going to look into it.  We have all had a discussion and Rogue asked us to inform the community. @Maxx__

[Maxx__]

5 minutes ago, HunterB said:

ZIP IT PORKCHOP. I ain't a dev, this is beyond my comprehension lol.  Azeh is going to look into it.  We have all had a discussion and Rogue asked us to inform the community. @Maxx__

I will not stand for a moderator to disrespect me like this. I will be filing a complaint.

[Akula]

2 minutes ago, Maxx__ said:

I will not stand for a moderator to disrespect me like this. I will be filing a complaint.

No!! Don’t tell on me. I’ll spawn a truck full of goodies!

[Maxx__]

Just now, HunterB said:

No!! Don’t tell on me. I’ll spawn a truck full of goodies!

Will you +1 my moderator app? Make asylum great again

[Big fart]

When will I be admin?

[Bag Of Funyuns]

30 minutes ago, HunterB said:

Rogue asked us to inform the community.

Holy fuck! He's alive?

[manhua]

I would suggest a direct ban on Asians from joining Asylum.

[MoLu.]

Actually lag switching is the main problem, in fact some people ping high, but there is no packet loss phenomenon, interaction with others normal, low ping does not mean that he does not use lag switching profit, Therefore, detecting network packet loss can effectively prevent lag switching.

[王 rando 王]

2 hours ago, Bag Of Funyuns said:

Holy fuck! He's alive?

yea im calling cap

[MoLu.]

Maybe moving the server server to Europe is also a solution to make it truly a global server, even if Asia connects to it, it's only 100+ ping,Of course,  American players connected to it will not have a good ping, but it will not become the so-called "300ping+" players.Even though I've been ping around 200 on the server, people still like to call me "300 ping+" because they fail.

[william]

35 minutes ago, MoLu. said:

Maybe moving the server server to Europe is also a solution to make it truly a global server, even if Asia connects to it, it's only 100+ ping,Of course,  American players connected to it will not have a good ping, but it will not become the so-called "300ping+" players.Even though I've been ping around 200 on the server, people still like to call me "300 ping+" because they fail.

Fighting vs 200 ping is still as bad as 300… ever tried playing vs 130+ ping on any other game such as cs? Unplayable

[MoLu.]

5 minutes ago, william said:

Fighting vs 200 ping is still as bad as 300… ever tried playing vs 130+ ping on any other game such as cs? Unplayable

Of course, Arma is a non-synchronous game, and a high ping does not affect the player's action, while a synchronous game like cs takes ping more seriously

[Tachophobia]

11 minutes ago, MoLu. said:

Of course, Arma is a non-synchronous game, and a high ping does not affect the player's action, while a synchronous game like cs takes ping more seriously

 

Not true. Arma is a client-sided game, which means you're at an ENORMOUS advantage if you're out of sync with the server (i.e., a high ping player.) This is why lag-switching and other exploit methods actually work and don't just stop your character. Normal games like CS2/Valorant put you at a disadvantage because you'd be "dead" from the server's POV before you actually managed to do anything.

 

High ping players have an undeniable advantage in combat, it enables you to trade on kills where in other games you'd simply be dead, or even secure multiple kills due to the desync between your POV and the enemies'.

Edited May 24, 2024 by Ruffian

[MoLu.]

4 minutes ago, Ruffian said:

 

Not true. Arma is a client-sided game, which means you're at an ENORMOUS advantage if you're out of sync with the server (i.e., a high ping player.) This is why lag-switching and other exploit methods actually work and don't just stop your character. Normal games like CS2/Valorant put you at a disadvantage because you'd be "dead" from the server's POV before you actually managed to do anything.

 

High ping players have an undeniable advantage in combat, it enables you to trade on kills where in other games you'd simply be dead, or even secure multiple kills due to the desync between your POV and the enemies'.

In fact, this is a double-edged sword, when we shoot the enemy in the back, because of the high ping, the enemy can often counter us before death, so that both sides are killed, which is often the case.

[manhua]

Stop making noise, molu， You can never wake up a group of people pretending to be dead. I call for a ban on Asians joining Asylum.

[Aluka]

Interesting notice announcement, this is a US server!

[Filiip]

3 hours ago, MoLu. said:

In fact, this is a double-edged sword, when we shoot the enemy in the back, because of the high ping, the enemy can often counter us before death, so that both sides are killed, which is often the case.

This is not a double edged sword its a sword pointing only at the person that is not 300 ping . You shoot me before i can see you. In CQC always trade cause i shoot 20 bullets into you then you die 5 seconds later ... literaly every situation you can imagine you have unfair adventage over me and everyone else . There should be no discussion on how this game works and how ping affects it, you in my opinnon shouldn't have even been on the server this long in the first place... killed the server population off nobody wants to fight you not cause you got 20 ppl on at any given time of EU primetime but cause you lag and every fight with you is frustrating . Id rather fight 50 shrouds than 20 lag infested chinese  , nothing personal just facts  

 

Edited May 24, 2024 by Filiip

[Crossfade]

the Chinese/Japanese/Cantonese/anythingese  should just go back to the Chinese asylum server they created years ago and leave the English speaking folks 🙂 fuck u all

[Patato]

19 hours ago, MoLu. said:

Of course, Arma is a non-synchronous game, and a high ping does not affect the player's action, while a synchronous game like cs takes ping more seriously

That is just so blatantly wrong its not even funny. Go watch your own montages. Do you think everyone you fight is just slow in the head? You have a .25-1 second advantage in 80% of fights.

[manhua]

2 hours ago, Patato said:

这简直是大错特错，一点也不好笑。去看看你自己的蒙太奇吧。你认为你打的每个人都只是头脑迟钝吗？在 80% 的战斗中，你有 0.25-1 秒的优势。

Why can't you kill us, but GULAN MAFIA NSF、NV， They can easily kill us. Mainly due to your hand injuries. Okay, this is an American server, and you should ban all Asians.

[MoLu.]

38 minutes ago, manhua said:

Why can't you kill us, but GULAN MAFIA NSF、NV， They can easily kill us. Mainly due to your hand injuries. Okay, this is an American server, and you should ban all Asians.

Patato:"Because a lot of people in these gang used the script!😭"

[Patato]

13 hours ago, manhua said:

Why can't you kill us, but GULAN MAFIA NSF、NV， They can easily kill us. Mainly due to your hand injuries. Okay, this is an American server, and you should ban all Asians.

Tell ya what, go buy a shadow play. Set it to a US server. And then prove me wrong by having the same KDA.
When the lag is between you and shadowplay instead of between you and our server ill believe ping means nothing

[Bherky]

23 hours ago, manhua said:

Why can't you kill us, but GULAN MAFIA NSF、NV， They can easily kill us. Mainly due to your hand injuries. Okay, this is an American server, and you should ban all Asians.

I'm not going to lie he is kind of right.

I have never had a problem killing any Chinese players. The only times where their ping has benefitted them (in my experience, which is a lot) is dropping out of ifrits/while driving.

Only in instances where people normally lag (tower lag, ifrit dropping, driving, etc.) do I see the 'ping advantage'.

Occasionally they 'shotgun' but never have I not been able to kill a Chinese player because of their ping.

People swear up and down that they are not able to hit their shots on Chinese players because they're skidding all over the place but I have PERSONALLY never had that happen out of the ordinary. Maybe there is a difference in my setup compared to other people, and for reference I live on the East Coast.

[Fried Rice]

6 minutes ago, Bherky said:

I'm not going to lie he is kind of right.

I have never had a problem killing any Chinese players. The only times where their ping has benefitted them (in my experience, which is a lot) is dropping out of ifrits/while driving.

Only in instances where people normally lag (tower lag, ifrit dropping, driving, etc.) do I see the 'ping advantage'.

Occasionally they 'shotgun' but never have I not been able to kill a Chinese player because of their ping.

People swear up and down that they are not able to hit their shots on Chinese players because they're skidding all over the place but I have PERSONALLY never had that happen out of the ordinary. Maybe there is a difference in my setup compared to other people, and for reference I live on the East Coast.

I 100% agree. I've stated my opinion many times on this situation, I don't think removing a group of players from this server is the best course of action.  

Edited May 26, 2024 by Fried Rice

[Tachophobia]

I agree with Chow and .Bherky, my statement was never intended to be used to discourage Chinese players from joining the server. They have a definite advantage but not one that could justify removing them from the playerbase. However, as HunterB said, they're looking into solutions to the synchronization issue and that's a good thing. Any solution that helps to remedy the situation while allowing Asian players to continue their Asylum experience is a good one.

 

Also the racist-bait comments are hilarious. No one cares if you're Asian, African, Caucasian or whatever. Stop trying to throw yourselves a pity party because your internet cafe wi-fi sucks.

[Crossfade]

1 hour ago, Bherky said:

I'm not going to lie he is kind of right.

I have never had a problem killing any Chinese players. The only times where their ping has benefitted them (in my experience, which is a lot) is dropping out of ifrits/while driving.

Only in instances where people normally lag (tower lag, ifrit dropping, driving, etc.) do I see the 'ping advantage'.

Occasionally they 'shotgun' but never have I not been able to kill a Chinese player because of their ping.

People swear up and down that they are not able to hit their shots on Chinese players because they're skidding all over the place but I have PERSONALLY never had that happen out of the ordinary. Maybe there is a difference in my setup compared to other people, and for reference I live on the East Coast.

the thing is your ping is low, when it comes to EU/AU players it becomes unbelievable.. i posted a video of me shooting someone 10-15 times he turned around 1 shot me then a solid 10-20 seconds later he died to my original shots it was unreal...

[King]

Also agree with Bherky and Chow, in the past 10+ years of playing on this server I have never had an issue fighting or killing the Chinese.  It's unnecessary to remove a good portion of the playerbase.

[william]

2 hours ago, Bherky said:

I'm not going to lie he is kind of right.

I have never had a problem killing any Chinese players. The only times where their ping has benefitted them (in my experience, which is a lot) is dropping out of ifrits/while driving.

Only in instances where people normally lag (tower lag, ifrit dropping, driving, etc.) do I see the 'ping advantage'.

Occasionally they 'shotgun' but never have I not been able to kill a Chinese player because of their ping.

People swear up and down that they are not able to hit their shots on Chinese players because they're skidding all over the place but I have PERSONALLY never had that happen out of the ordinary. Maybe there is a difference in my setup compared to other people, and for reference I live on the East Coast.

killing individual high ping gamers isnt too bad but when u got a potential 3 piece on ur hands and you have to shoot 15 bullets for one them to die and have to reload every kill its very annoying. i have lost count the amount of times ive hit one of them 5-6 times and stopped shooting because i thought they would die from that only to spin round and proceed to annihilate me.

[Ahm2d]

On 5/24/2024 at 5:53 AM, HunterB said:

We understand that network vulnerabilities exploited by certain players have been frustrating for many of you. To improve the overall gameplay experience, we are looking into making adjustments to manage packet loss more effectively. Over the next few days, we will be testing these changes to see how well they work. If this solution doesn't adequately address the issue, we may consider implementing stricter ping restrictions.

In essence, we are developing a system that will remove players from the game if their packet loss is too high. If this system isn't enough to prevent network issues from being exploited, we will seriously consider implementing stricter ping restrictions.

Thank you for your patience and understanding as we work to enhance your gaming experience.

The packet loss is not the issue. Some people are playing from very far countries from USA of course they gonna have 200+ ping including my self. What im aware of there is already a Ping Limit if you get 300+ you get kicked and thats very fair for all players. If you have 20 to 100 ping and your fighting 200 to 250 ping players its not even that bad people are complaining because basically they dont want the asians on the server. If you insist to add a ping limit there is already on s2 for 300+ ping just add it to the s1 because i dont think s1 have any ping limits. Removing a huge amount of players from the server is a huge mistake that shouldn't be done because its gonna make the server die more than what it is now and the asians are huge part of the server and they are active players and the people who are complaining not active like the asians. This is just an advice from me to the staff team i have been around in arma communities long enough to know this is a big mistake and gonna lead the server to die more you guys need to think straight and make asylum a better place and add new stuff to the server and not to think about kicking some players from the server this will not make the server any better it will make it worse and will change the look of the server.

Edited May 26, 2024 by Ahm2d

[ł S4M ł]

5 hours ago, Bherky said:

I'm not going to lie he is kind of right.

I have never had a problem killing any Chinese players. The only times where their ping has benefitted them (in my experience, which is a lot) is dropping out of ifrits/while driving.

Only in instances where people normally lag (tower lag, ifrit dropping, driving, etc.) do I see the 'ping advantage'.

Occasionally they 'shotgun' but never have I not been able to kill a Chinese player because of their ping.

People swear up and down that they are not able to hit their shots on Chinese players because they're skidding all over the place but I have PERSONALLY never had that happen out of the ordinary. Maybe there is a difference in my setup compared to other people, and for reference I live on the East Coast.

Yeh I agree, it's a skill issue, 250 ping is normal, losing connection mid fight is normal, rubber banding as we're shooting them is normal.

we have many videos of this happening, they pushed us at OG 5 of them and they all lost connection at the same time because their internet cafe went offline.

they don't have stable internet, packet loss and ping fluctuate massively and its not enjoyable.

in my personal opinion it's not every China man, some don't lag at all but the ones that live on the Great Wall of China are laggy af.

[王 rando 王]

1 minute ago, ł S4M ł said:

Yeh I agree, it's a skill issue, 250 ping is normal, losing connection mid fight is normal, rubber banding as we're shooting them is normal.

we have many videos of this happening, they pushed us at OG 5 of them and they all lost connection at the same time because their internet cafe went offline.

they don't have stable internet, packet loss and ping fluctuate massively and its not enjoyable.

in my personal opinion it's not every China man, some don't lag at all but the ones that live on the Great Wall of China are laggy af.

internet cafe is crazy 😂😂

[ł S4M ł]

4 hours ago, william said:

killing individual high ping gamers isnt too bad but when u got a potential 3 piece on ur hands and you have to shoot 15 bullets for one them to die and have to reload every kill its very annoying. i have lost count the amount of times ive hit one of them 5-6 times and stopped shooting because i thought they would die from that only to spin round and proceed to annihilate me.

Thank you ❤️ you understand CQB! far away 100m+ its fine but they flinch 10 bullets and we trade it's unplayable.

sometimes we trade and 10 seconds later it says they were killed, doesn't even mention my name it's been that long since I killed them.

On 5/24/2024 at 11:21 AM, Filiip said:

This is not a double edged sword its a sword pointing only at the person that is not 300 ping . You shoot me before i can see you. In CQC always trade cause i shoot 20 bullets into you then you die 5 seconds later ... literaly every situation you can imagine you have unfair adventage over me and everyone else . There should be no discussion on how this game works and how ping affects it, you in my opinnon shouldn't have even been on the server this long in the first place... killed the server population off nobody wants to fight you not cause you got 20 ppl on at any given time of EU primetime but cause you lag and every fight with you is frustrating . Id rather fight 50 shrouds than 20 lag infested chinese  , nothing personal just facts  

 

@King @Fried Rice come and fight cartels for a week and see what it's like I beg, this isn't just two instances.

it happens all day everyday... if you say that is Arma being Arma I'm going to dick slap you.

Edited May 26, 2024 by ł S4M ł

[Chris Peacock]

I can see both sides. I’ve definitely fought them cqc where it is almost 100% of the time you trade because they do end up taking longer to die. But also I’ve never really had an issue with actually killing them when it comes to actually hitting them. It’s the tanking bullets that gives them the biggest advantage imo

Like I said no issue with hitting them. Just tanky as all hell

[王 rando 王]

working as intended

 

[phoenix.]

12 hours ago, Chris Peacock said:

I can see both sides. I’ve definitely fought them cqc where it is almost 100% of the time you trade because they do end up taking longer to die. But also I’ve never really had an issue with actually killing them when it comes to actually hitting them. It’s the tanking bullets that gives them the biggest advantage imo

Like I said no issue with hitting them. Just tanky as all hell

Obviously, the person in these three videos is the same person. This is just an individual and cannot represent all Asian players.

[Chris Peacock]

41 minutes ago, phoenix. said:

Obviously, the person in these three videos is the same person. This is just an individual and cannot represent all Asian players.

i mean it does though. I have more clips I can find these are just all the ones I have uploaded

[Infamous [FULL SEND]]

15 hours ago, Chris Peacock said:

I can see both sides. I’ve definitely fought them cqc where it is almost 100% of the time you trade because they do end up taking longer to die. But also I’ve never really had an issue with actually killing them when it comes to actually hitting them. It’s the tanking bullets that gives them the biggest advantage imo

Like I said no issue with hitting them. Just tanky as all hell

usually I side with the chinese but these clips are bad.