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28 minutes ago, Rocketneo said:

A lot of us already recognize the work that luke has done, this was just a patch notes. I'm sure they will give credit when able, there is still tons of work/bugs to do. As well as all of the other designers/developers work that was put into this update.

When able? It's the perfect opportunity to give credit. If I were luke I'd be out the door. 

For the record I have contributed 0. I just think it's disrespectful to those who have contributed their time.

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33 minutes ago, goyney said:

When able? It's the perfect opportunity to give credit. If I were luke I'd be out the door. 

For the record I have contributed 0. I just think it's disrespectful to those who have contributed their time.

How can they give credit for something that hasn't been seen yet by the community. Look at what time they made this post, real-life "work", "family" and developing the server to try and bring more content for us as the community. He will get his recognition when the server opens back up and people can see what all was done. They gave the wipe contributions recognition after wipe was released.

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1 hour ago, goyney said:

When able? It's the perfect opportunity to give credit. If I were luke I'd be out the door. 

For the record I have contributed 0. I just think it's disrespectful to those who have contributed their time.

on god. i gotta save this shit everytime it dies and still won't give me my rightfully earned cm role.

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16 hours ago, Retro said:

At this point, I don’t feel like you guys probably backed up the server correctly and there’s a reason why you won’t give us our houses back because you guys fucked up…. 
 

If I’m wrong, then put this it to a vote with the community because supposedly we are, but it doesn’t seem like it sometimes. So let’s put it to a vote and have the community decide on it! 

@Fitz

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3 hours ago, Despair said:

At the end of the day we've heard from probably <5 people arguing against our current plan, now that doesn't mean thats it but thats all I've seen.  I've explained myself here and in the discord, you can do the same.

This is our plan forward right now, no one is stopping you from making a suggestion, laying out your reasoning and putting a poll.  

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19 hours ago, Fitz said:

At the end of the day we've heard from probably <5 people arguing against our current plan, now that doesn't mean thats it but thats all I've seen.  I've explained myself here and in the discord, you can do the same.

This is our plan forward right now, no one is stopping you from making a suggestion, laying out your reasoning and putting a poll.  

do you not care about the community enough to post the poll yourself? There's also way more then five, sounds like your living inside an echo chamber of people telling you what you want to hear. Tends to happen when you become owner bro. Y'all made a huge post about wanting to do right by the community and it wasn't a thought for five minutes to ask if people would rather the v2 database including housing or the v3 database from the recent wipe? Kinda seems like a lack of foresight and overall care. I don't say this to be a jackass, just trying to give honest feedback. The update looks absolutely amazing but it won't matter without v2 housing. Like retro said we will see similar numbers to the wipe and a drop off most likely. The sad truth is, you guys could develop for years and not catch up to Olympus at this point, because of the much larger development team, the only hope is to do something different; which I do see here and to most importantly respect the playerbase to try and repair the damage from rogue's tenure. I don't see just the development repairing the damage caused by not listening to the players in the first place and wiping the server. Seems like you guys are just doubling down on what the past administration did by not restoring v2 housing. 

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2 minutes ago, Despair said:

do you not care about the community enough to post the poll yourself? There's also way more then five, sounds like your living inside an echo chamber of people telling you what you want to hear. Tends to happen when you become owner bro. Y'all made a huge post about wanting to do right by the community and it wasn't a thought for five minutes to ask if people would rather the v2 database including housing or the v3 database from the recent wipe? Kinda seems like a lack of foresight and overall care. I don't say this to be a jackass, just trying to give honest feedback. The update looks absolutely amazing but it won't matter without v2 housing. Like retro said we will see similar numbers to the wipe and a drop off most likely. The sad truth is, you guys could develop for years and not catch up to Olympus at this point, because of the much larger development team, the only hope is to do something different; which I do see here and to most importantly respect the playerbase to try and repair the damage from rogue's tenure. I don't see just the development repairing the damage caused by not listening to the players in the first place and wiping the server. Seems like you guys are just doubling down on what the past administration did by not restoring v2 housing. 

You're seeing this from one end of the stick, there is no "echo chamber". The owners got their opinions based on the thoughts of many players throughout the community, and based on that, came up with an idea, you and the couple other people who miss the houses you have a soul tie with do not make up the whole community

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19 minutes ago, Despair said:

do you not care about the community enough to post the poll yourself? There's also way more then five, sounds like your living inside an echo chamber of people telling you what you want to hear. Tends to happen when you become owner bro. Y'all made a huge post about wanting to do right by the community and it wasn't a thought for five minutes to ask if people would rather the v2 database including housing or the v3 database from the recent wipe? Kinda seems like a lack of foresight and overall care. I don't say this to be a jackass, just trying to give honest feedback. The update looks absolutely amazing but it won't matter without v2 housing. Like retro said we will see similar numbers to the wipe and a drop off most likely. The sad truth is, you guys could develop for years and not catch up to Olympus at this point, because of the much larger development team, the only hope is to do something different; which I do see here and to most importantly respect the playerbase to try and repair the damage from rogue's tenure. I don't see just the development repairing the damage caused by not listening to the players in the first place and wiping the server. Seems like you guys are just doubling down on what the past administration did by not restoring v2 housing. 

The polls posted are really changing our minds right now

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1 hour ago, Fitz said:

The polls posted are really changing our minds right now

Looks like v2 is winning...also completely missed the point. Point was staff should've been setting up polls weeks ago to figure out if people wanted v2 or v3. To quote you  "This is our plan forward right now, no one is stopping you from making a suggestion, laying out your reasoning and putting a poll." This is a lame duck excuse you guys as staff should've been polling about this weeks ago. Instead of dumping it on the community. Not taking responsibility for the mess left by rogue correctly is the point.

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17 minutes ago, Despair said:

Looks like v2 is winning...also completely missed the point. Point was staff should've been setting up polls weeks ago to figure out if people wanted v2 or v3. To quote you  "This is our plan forward right now, no one is stopping you from making a suggestion, laying out your reasoning and putting a poll." This is a lame duck excuse you guys as staff should've been polling about this weeks ago. Instead of dumping it on the community. Not taking responsibility for the mess left by rogue correctly is the point.

They should just take all the houses away for the tears 

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14 hours ago, Milan said:
  • Upon accumulating 10 million Prestige, your money cap will increase by 1 million, allowing you to hold up to 11 million in the bank. This progression continues: for every additional 10 million Prestige earned, your money cap will increase by another 1 million.

you guys are smoking crack

Fitz loves his prestige system and computer components. 

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I wanna say that I really like these patch notes. A lot of original ideas for legal civs is cool and creating a niche RP sub-faction for the APD is great. However, I think there are others besides myself that wanna know how you guys intend on rebuilding our population this on the Arma 3 platform if its an option. Do you intend to do some kind of advertising? Pay a large-ish streamer to play here x amount of hours a week? I'm not saying it has to be one of those two, however some idea to continuously bring people here other then word of mouth has been needed for years.

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1 hour ago, Steve said:

I wanna say that I really like these patch notes. A lot of original ideas for legal civs is cool and creating a niche RP sub-faction for the APD is great. However, I think there are others besides myself that wanna know how you guys intend on rebuilding our population this on the Arma 3 platform if its an option. Do you intend to do some kind of advertising? Pay a large-ish streamer to play here x amount of hours a week? I'm not saying it has to be one of those two, however some idea to continuously bring people here other then word of mouth has been needed for years.

Given that the ENTIRE game's population is this low on a weekend night and the game is 11 years old.... I think paying an outrageous amount of money for a streamer is a lost cause... In my opinion, the best thing they can do is keep the servers on life support until A4, which is ages away

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4 hours ago, Jake said:

Given that the ENTIRE game's population is this low on a weekend night and the game is 11 years old.... I think paying an outrageous amount of money for a streamer is a lost cause... In my opinion, the best thing they can do is keep the servers on life support until A4, which is ages away

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FiveM econ is the best route. 100% Asylum ownership need to look into that as a long term goal for the community. It would have a wider audience. 

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54 minutes ago, pan fried said:

CANT WAIT TO FARM ANOTHER 10 MIL TO ADD 1 MIL TO MY BANK

VERY FUCKIN COOL

Yeah because load-outs are so expensive you will blow through that 10m sooooo fast. Might as well cry on the forums about how fast all those load-outs will take you. I’m tired of everyone crying about how 10m isn’t enough. It’s more than plenty to buy whatever you want

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18 minutes ago, Jake said:

Yeah because load-outs are so expensive you will blow through that 10m sooooo fast. Might as well cry on the forums about how fast all those load-outs will take you. I’m tired of everyone crying about how 10m isn’t enough. It’s more than plenty to buy whatever you want

they like having big number on their screen

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On 11/18/2024 at 6:31 PM, Milan said:

admins spawned all their money before this update anyways

The word admin implies money anyways. stop being a silly bitch and play the fucking server or don't, you silly bitch.

 

 

On 11/22/2024 at 7:04 PM, Steve said:

I wanna say that I really like these patch notes. A lot of original ideas for legal civs is cool and creating a niche RP sub-faction for the APD is great. However, I think there are others besides myself that wanna know how you guys intend on rebuilding our population this on the Arma 3 platform if its an option. Do you intend to do some kind of advertising? Pay a large-ish streamer to play here x amount of hours a week? I'm not saying it has to be one of those two, however some idea to continuously bring people here other then word of mouth has been needed for years.

I SAID THIS VERY FUCKING SAME THING WHEN IT FIRST SHUT DOWN.

 

Sorry didn't mean to yell. Potato even messaged me saying they don't have money for such things (advertising and such)

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On 11/22/2024 at 8:23 PM, Jake said:

Given that the ENTIRE game's population is this low on a weekend night and the game is 11 years old.... I think paying an outrageous amount of money for a streamer is a lost cause... In my opinion, the best thing they can do is keep the servers on life support until A4, which is ages away

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WE need to switch onto Reforger tbh, before it is too late. I know, it's  an expected player loss due to having to buy a new game and letting go of nostalgia, but there are a lot of streamers already playing Reforger, and that number is rising.

It honestly is a refreshing re-approach for the direction of a dead game. I know Reforger isn't the finished product and it is Arma 4 alpha, but If we went onto those servers we would see a revamping. The main life server there is dogshit compared to ours (Elon which btw has 3 servers maintaining about 130 at low peaks). If we were to move over a newer game (fuck gta5. that game is dead in the water come 1 year from now), we'd be golden.

15 hours ago, pan fried said:

this is exactly why the server is failing again right now listening to retards 🙂

if you guys are really so scared of people ruining your 1 or 2 weeks of fights with explosives or that you can't afford the house you want to buy for the 2 weeks you will stick around .... just buy planks retards

cute that you are implying that your gang actually fights cartels or feds with equal numbers but ok.

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On 11/23/2024 at 12:14 PM, Jake said:

Yeah because load-outs are so expensive you will blow through that 10m sooooo fast. Might as well cry on the forums about how fast all those load-outs will take you. I’m tired of everyone crying about how 10m isn’t enough. It’s more than plenty to buy whatever you want

whether people see it or not, these people with 10s of millions are the ones who invest the most playtime in the server, there's no reason for the developers to piss them off when 90% of them don't even spend it. You think Leroy was able to grind for 700mil while spending it? The cartel fights are going to be the same, there's going to be people spamming rpgs, that's inevitable. But these people who loved to grind like Leroy aren't going to play as often if they don't see a point in letting their money go to waste (big number = cool). I understand both sides of the argument and don't care about some virtual money, but the server is on its last leg, 70 pop on a saturday night and we think pissing off a good chunk of the playerbase is a good idea?

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46 minutes ago, Bag Of Funyuns said:

whether people see it or not, these people with 10s of millions are the ones who invest the most playtime in the server, there's no reason for the developers to piss them off when 90% of them don't even spend it. You think Leroy was able to grind for 700mil while spending it? The cartel fights are going to be the same, there's going to be people spamming rpgs, that's inevitable. But these people who loved to grind like Leroy aren't going to play as often if they don't see a point in letting their money go to waste (big number = cool). I understand both sides of the argument and don't care about some virtual money, but the server is on its last leg, 70 pop on a saturday night and we think pissing off a good chunk of the playerbase is a good idea?

I did see a solid population of 90+ Saturday night, but I understand your point. While the community was/is in a difficult spot and a lot can be blamed on past ownership or lack-their-of.... We have to realize the game is old as shit. We are all here for RP yes, but we are all here for the combat aspect too. A3 RP/combat doesn't even compare to FiveM, in both ways. Asylum in itself is more of a light RP, yet still RP. But the combat's are NOTHING alike. Now back to the point... I "think" (personally anyway) that the intention of making a money cap was to force people to spend it, otherwise they can bank it into prestige. There could still be a leaderboard for prestige gained instead of overall money satisfying the people who like to see the numbers increase. Do I think ever 10m prestige should equal a 1m money cap in bank? No. I can see both sides, but I think it would be fair to meet in the middle by: creating a prestige scoreboard, reduce the levels of prestige to a different amount say every 5m prestige is 1m added to bank (throwing a random number out there don't gather your pichforks and torches), and maybe a way to withdraw prestige but maybe a 2 prestige to 1 dollar ratio or something similiar if someone was draining their bank account. I am willing to listen to opinions and have a reasonable convesation of why or why something won't work. I am even willing to admit that I may be wrong, but I am still willing to have that conversation.

PS: I appreciate the thoughtful reply from you, unlike some people who simply cry and bitch. Clearly you feel strongly about this, but you are keeping a level head about it.

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On 11/24/2024 at 10:08 PM, Jake said:

I did see a solid population of 90+ Saturday night, but I understand your point. While the community was/is in a difficult spot and a lot can be blamed on past ownership or lack-their-of.... We have to realize the game is old as shit. We are all here for RP yes, but we are all here for the combat aspect too. A3 RP/combat doesn't even compare to FiveM, in both ways. Asylum in itself is more of a light RP, yet still RP. But the combat's are NOTHING alike. Now back to the point... I "think" (personally anyway) that the intention of making a money cap was to force people to spend it, otherwise they can bank it into prestige. There could still be a leaderboard for prestige gained instead of overall money satisfying the people who like to see the numbers increase. Do I think ever 10m prestige should equal a 1m money cap in bank? No. I can see both sides, but I think it would be fair to meet in the middle by: creating a prestige scoreboard, reduce the levels of prestige to a different amount say every 5m prestige is 1m added to bank (throwing a random number out there don't gather your pichforks and torches), and maybe a way to withdraw prestige but maybe a 2 prestige to 1 dollar ratio or something similiar if someone was draining their bank account. I am willing to listen to opinions and have a reasonable convesation of why or why something won't work. I am even willing to admit that I may be wrong, but I am still willing to have that conversation.

PS: I appreciate the thoughtful reply from you, unlike some people who simply cry and bitch. Clearly you feel strongly about this, but you are keeping a level head about it.

retard thinks that people want a leaderboard for useless prestige ...

think about it there already was a leaderboard ... for money ...

forcing people to spend their money? the only thing they are forcing people to do is quit the server because of retarded opinions and ideas

and shut the fuck up about level headed responses when all you do is antagonize

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3 hours ago, pan fried said:

retard thinks that people want a leaderboard for useless prestige ...

think about it there already was a leaderboard ... for money ...

forcing people to spend their money? the only thing they are forcing people to do is quit the server because of retarded opinions and ideas

and shut the fuck up about level headed responses when all you do is antagonize

A leaderboard is a leaderboard, nobody can really use 10m in one go unless you are talking about housing, which I believe was set at a cap of 10m anyway. If they want to see the numbers go up it does the same thing. My guess is they plan to actually do something with the prestige.

Yes, forcing people to spend their money. I don't see this making people leave, it is too early to tell as it has only been a few days since the server reopened, but thus far the population is looking good considering the age of the game and the active population on the game, as well as MOST people are playing for mil-sim not RP servers...

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As seen above, we are currently rank #19 out of all servers on A3. Should the owners/devs/contributors still strive for better? Absolutely. But given all these variables and we still have roughly 1% of ALL A3 players, and we have since the server released (I have been paying attention). So again, it is too early to tell, but so far so good in my opinion. I think the patch notes were acceptable. Life changing? Maybe not, but a win is a win either way.

Your post just proves my point on level headed responses vs not (yours). If you think all I do is antagonize you are free to think that, but I would like to think most do not have that opinion of me. Whatever floats your boat though.

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2 hours ago, Jake said:

A leaderboard is a leaderboard, nobody can really use 10m in one go unless you are talking about housing, which I believe was set at a cap of 10m anyway. If they want to see the numbers go up it does the same thing. My guess is they plan to actually do something with the prestige.

Yes, forcing people to spend their money. I don't see this making people leave, it is too early to tell as it has only been a few days since the server reopened, but thus far the population is looking good considering the age of the game and the active population on the game, as well as MOST people are playing for mil-sim not RP servers...

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As seen above, we are currently rank #19 out of all servers on A3. Should the owners/devs/contributors still strive for better? Absolutely. But given all these variables and we still have roughly 1% of ALL A3 players, and we have since the server released (I have been paying attention). So again, it is too early to tell, but so far so good in my opinion. I think the patch notes were acceptable. Life changing? Maybe not, but a win is a win either way.

Your post just proves my point on level headed responses vs not (yours). If you think all I do is antagonize you are free to think that, but I would like to think most do not have that opinion of me. Whatever floats your boat though.

From my personal opinion the money grind was one of the funnest parts of the game. I think you under estimate how many rp/grinder type people there are.

Some people don't want constant fights, some people enjoy seeing their bank roll grow and doing money making activities. Some people grind to bank roll for friends or gang mates who can't play as much etc.

 

Overall numbers it's definitely the minority maybe 15-20% AT BEST. But from historical experience these are the dudes on all day, everyday even on holidays like Xmas and shit. They don't miss a beat. Those are the people who keep numbers high and stick around for months/years. Not the dudes who log on to literally steam roll feds/cartels then get off within 2 hours after everyone has rage quit as a result.

Should be incentivizing the farmers imo by giving them a reason to keep playing. Prestige ain't it i promise you, nobody cares.

Yes 10 mil is plenty but there are plenty of terrorists people who love stuffing houses to the brim with rpg, Sui and kits etc, vehicles. That can chew 10 mil np.

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You should keep all of those members asking to be unbanned from the discord banned.

Also, great work. I haven't had the opportunity to jump back in yet as I'm balls deep in a bannerlord campaign if I'm not at work. 

Thought I'd poke my head in and show my appreciation for the effort that the dev team and staff has made.

 

Good shit.

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