NotMike Posted May 23, 2022 Report Share Posted May 23, 2022 Do you remember how poppin cartels were in the times of dirty money? I do. You know why? Increasing revenue independent of the server populations actions. Now a day, you can capture drug cartel at 8:30pm EST on a weekend with the server literally full and make absolutely no money off the cap. Literally. Why would I want to fight Plague in the middle of the day for no profit off cap, even though the server is full, when I can roach it off them at 3am and make insane profit while theres 30 people on? Make cartels generate revenue the same way they used to. Let them generate it independent of what the servers population is doing so that the caps are worth fighting for beyond being an insanely toxic ego fight. Im sick of people yelling at me for chopping their vehicles because I'm poor. Save these peoples ifrits, fix the cartels. austin273, • B A R K I N •, Donald and 5 others like this Link to comment
Defragments Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, NotMike said: Im sick of people yelling at me for chopping their vehicles because I'm poor. Save these peoples ifrits, fix the cartels. Just chop them anyway, poor or not. Make them cry, it's funny. As if most people aren't disgustingly rich now anyway. Edited May 24, 2022 by Defragments Trioxide and austin273 like this Link to comment
Junke Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, Defragments said: Just chop them anyway, poor or not. Make them cry, it's funny. As if most people aren't disgustingly rich now anyway. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😐 Eta on downvote button? King, lukee and operatorjohnny^ like this Link to comment
Defragments Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, Junker said: 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😐 Eta on downvote button? LMFAO that's what I'm sayin! You'd be the best at speedrunning negative rep in this community judging by your autistic suggestions! lukee likes this Link to comment
Junke Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Defragments said: LMFAO that's what I'm sayin! You'd be the best at speedrunning negative rep in this community judging by your autistic suggestions! 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 Link to comment
Teddy_ Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, NotMike said: Do you remember how poppin cartels were in the times of dirty money? I do. You know why? Increasing revenue independent of the server populations actions. Now a day, you can capture drug cartel at 8:30pm EST on a weekend with the server literally full and make absolutely no money off the cap. Literally. Why would I want to fight Plague in the middle of the day for no profit off cap, even though the server is full, when I can roach it off them at 3am and make insane profit while theres 30 people on? Make cartels generate revenue the same way they used to. Let them generate it independent of what the servers population is doing so that the caps are worth fighting for beyond being an insanely toxic ego fight. Im sick of people yelling at me for chopping their vehicles because I'm poor. Save these peoples ifrits, fix the cartels. STOP RATTING IFRITS MIKE , jk dont care just use them to push next time , we just want to fight 😃 Anyways all trolling aside i kind of like the idea of there being like a general amount of money being made from a cartel that is not server related, not a crazy amount though because there's already enough money in the game but like 50k/ hour something like that , the main thing is when you get stuff like drugs / wongs and you actually run scotch / do drugs you already earn alot of money because of no cut being taken but the arms cartel could definately do with a little boost to make it more appealing to people. Also defrags and junke can you guys talk shit to eachother in like private messages instead of in the suggestion posts i know there's alot of sexual tension between you two but still... thanks Edited May 24, 2022 by Juan Lei Link to comment
Defragments Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Juan Lei said: Also defrags and junke can you guys talk shit to eachother in like private messages instead of in the suggestion posts i know there's alot of sexual tension between you two but still... thanks Hey now, I'm a man of the fan. If a fangirl wants to follow me to each post I won't stop them. It's funny knowing I'm in his head 24/7 Link to comment
Gen. Henry Arnold Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 Bring back fridges and dirty money |Cam|, Jr4life24, • B A R K I N • and 5 others like this Link to comment
王 rando 王 Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gen. Henry Arnold said: Bring back fridges and dirty money no better feeling than camping rebel to get 100k dirty money from some sweaty loser Donald, KrazyKnight and Kawaii like this Link to comment
Defragments Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, Gen. Henry Arnold said: Bring back fridges and dirty money Nooooo Link to comment
KrazyKnight Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 43 minutes ago, 王 rando 王 said: no better feeling than camping rebel to get 100k dirty money from some sweaty loser I was on cloud fucking 9 when I stole 300k from someone going to donor reb. Good times. Sandwich and Donald like this Link to comment
王 rando 王 Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Gen. Henry Arnold said: Bring back fridges and dirty money I liked dirty money, but it should be used for more than just cartel money. Like upkeep for gang houses or something Link to comment
Sheriff Rick Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Gen. Henry Arnold said: Bring back fridges and dirty money It was hated tho and cartel players at the time said it was the reason nobody wanted to do cartels, which imo was kind of right. Idc about cartels but I also don't want people autistically camping rebel outposts in hopes of stealing dirty money either KrazyKnight and Walt like this Link to comment
NotMike Posted May 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 7 hours ago, Juan Lei said: STOP RATTING IFRITS MIKE , jk dont care just use them to push next time , we just want to fight 😃 Anyways all trolling aside i kind of like the idea of there being like a general amount of money being made from a cartel that is not server related, not a crazy amount though because there's already enough money in the game but like 50k/ hour something like that , the main thing is when you get stuff like drugs / wongs and you actually run scotch / do drugs you already earn alot of money because of no cut being taken but the arms cartel could definately do with a little boost to make it more appealing to people. Also defrags and junke can you guys talk shit to eachother in like private messages instead of in the suggestion posts i know there's alot of sexual tension between you two but still... thanks I agree, but if your intention when capturing a cartel is to utilize it, you have less than 30 minutes to do so before it is instantly contested agian. Its not viable to make significant amounts of money while you own the capture. 3 hours ago, Gen. Henry Arnold said: Bring back fridges and dirty money Just to clarify, I am not suggesting either of those things. Link to comment
王 rando 王 Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, Sheriff Rick said: Idc about cartels but I also don't want people autistically camping rebel outposts in hopes of stealing dirty money either then we camp the fridge! i was a real rat back in those days man Jr4life24 and R4T like this Link to comment
Trioxide Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 It would definitely be a nerf to oil cartel, but hopefully they would find some way to balance it. Roaches camping to kill you when you grab the money might also be a problem. Are you saying all the money should go to the flag, or the money from people doing runs should go to the gang account while the flag generates money separately? I kind of like the first option more, but it would be a huge change to how cartels work. It would take some getting used to. 4 hours ago, Gen. Henry Arnold said: Bring back fridges and dirty money Sorry, what’s a fridge? Link to comment
王 rando 王 Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, Piter De Vries said: Sorry, what’s a fridge? That’s where the dirty money is! Link to comment
Trioxide Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 25 minutes ago, 王 rando 王 said: That’s where the dirty money is! At the cartel locations? Link to comment
KrazyKnight Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, Piter De Vries said: At the cartel locations? Used to, not anymore. Just a flag now. Trioxide likes this Link to comment
NotMike Posted May 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 Can someone make this happen im going broke by the second Link to comment
Austin M Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 Isnt that how it worked back in the day, fight cartels all day grind at night for money after? Link to comment
Junke Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 Would it be a problem just to increase how much the cartel takes when people process. That way people are more influenced to actually come fight for the cartel. Link to comment
Zurph Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 On 5/24/2022 at 1:23 PM, Sheriff Rick said: It was hated tho and cartel players at the time said it was the reason nobody wanted to do cartels, which imo was kind of right. it would 100% increase cartel fighting as soon as some one sees over 50k at a cartel the whole server would be trying to grab it. who ever said it decreased was a moron. Walt likes this Link to comment
william Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 just do x amount into the gang bank depending on players online Link to comment
NotMike Posted May 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 (edited) Im not suggesting a fridge. Although it would be cool if the cartel built up money and you had to sit at the flagpole for say 1 minute when you want to collect it and it goes straight to your gang account at that point. That would negate DS and Farmersville roaching the money at the rebels. Then an attacking gang has the opportunity to fight for that money. Just to be clear this was not a suggestion this was just thinking out loud as an alternative to dirty money. Edited June 8, 2022 by NotMike Link to comment
Mitch (IFRIT) Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 so you want the fridge back????????? there are at least 100 threads demanding its removal Link to comment
王 rando 王 Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Mitch (IFRIT) said: so you want the fridge back????????? there are at least 100 threads demanding its removal i want the fridge back, i wanna rat some losers for the money they fought so hard for Link to comment
DankBud Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 On 5/24/2022 at 11:07 AM, Gen. Henry Arnold said: Bring back fridges and dirty money 22 hours ago, Mitch (IFRIT) said: so you want the fridge back????????? there are at least 100 threads demanding its removal fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck no please, idk why people wanna go back after 3 years of going forward an getting things that make sense to be put into place finnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnallly in place that makes gang life/rebel so much better.Only way people run drugs is if they feel safe,people have gotten smarter over the years when it comes to making money,gangs should encourage smaller gangs to run,but it don't happen,because Asylum is Asylum. Lets not go back please no fridge lol Link to comment
NotMike Posted June 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/6/2022 at 9:22 PM, Mitch (IFRIT) said: so you want the fridge back????????? there are at least 100 threads demanding its removal I feel like i specifically said no fridge lol Link to comment
lukee Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 On 5/23/2022 at 3:39 PM, NotMike said: Do you remember how poppin cartels were in the times of dirty money? I do. You know why? Increasing revenue independent of the server populations actions. Now a day, you can capture drug cartel at 8:30pm EST on a weekend with the server literally full and make absolutely no money off the cap. Literally. Why would I want to fight Plague in the middle of the day for no profit off cap, even though the server is full, when I can roach it off them at 3am and make insane profit while theres 30 people on? Make cartels generate revenue the same way they used to. Let them generate it independent of what the servers population is doing so that the caps are worth fighting for beyond being an insanely toxic ego fight. Im sick of people yelling at me for chopping their vehicles because I'm poor. Save these peoples ifrits, fix the cartels. I disagree, this will change completely how drug running will operate and will give no reason for gangs to capture the cartel for drug running as it won’t give them a tax, making drug running easier. Link to comment
operatorjohnny^ Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 7 hours ago, lukee said: I disagree, this will change completely how drug running will operate and will give no reason for gangs to capture the cartel for drug running as it won’t give them a tax, making drug running easier. it would still tax them bucko...the tax just wouldn't be added to the profit of the cartel owner. the money the cartel generates would be a set amount and the tax would just go poof Link to comment
NotMike Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 6 hours ago, operatorjohnny^ said: it would still tax them bucko...the tax just wouldn't be added to the profit of the cartel owner. the money the cartel generates would be a set amount and the tax would just go poof Johnny got my back u tell him operatorjohnny^ likes this Link to comment
ObiWoki Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 I am open to suggestions to fix cartel life, but I doubt money would be the real incentive to bring cartel life back to Asylum Link to comment
NotMike Posted June 26, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, ObiWoki said: I am open to suggestions to fix cartel life, but I doubt money would be the real incentive to bring cartel life back to Asylum My primary point was that the time of day where the cartels make the most money is the time of the day when the least amount of players are online, and there is little fighting. It makes no sense economically to show up to a cartel during prime time if you have not already beaten the game because you are only going to fight, not to profit. This leaving room only for those of us who are doing it because we want the fight, and none for those who are doing it as a fun way to make money like it should be. THAT BEING SAID, here is a more direct response and something of an elaboration on my above point to the comment I just quoted. Its not unusual to burn through 100k fighting one cartel, especially if you lose just one ifrit you're already more than that in the hole. Only those who have beat the game so to speak can afford this price. At most a gang that fights caps in the day time will break even. Its unreasonable to expect that a gang where the richest member has only a few million dollars could stand up and repush any of todays cartel fighting gangs, and theres only about 5 as im sure you have noticed. It simply is not economically viable. We are all stacked and couldnt care less about the price of our loadouts for the rest of the time we play, and the newer gangs will go broke even if they win the fight because of how little the cap draws in. If the solution is not increasing the payout for a capture, than it has to be increasing the time a capture is on cooldown so these players have time to do their runs utilizing the cartel. Link to comment
Good Lub Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, NotMike said: and theres only about 5 as im sure you have noticed. Actually its just 1 and its called envy 🙂 Edited June 27, 2022 by Good Lub Link to comment
NotMike Posted June 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Good Lub said: Actually its just 1 and its called envy 🙂 youre thinking of gang fort 🙃 Link to comment
operatorjohnny^ Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 17 hours ago, NotMike said: My primary point was that the time of day where the cartels make the most money is the time of the day when the least amount of players are online, and there is little fighting. It makes no sense economically to show up to a cartel during prime time if you have not already beaten the game because you are only going to fight, not to profit. This leaving room only for those of us who are doing it because we want the fight, and none for those who are doing it as a fun way to make money like it should be. THAT BEING SAID, here is a more direct response and something of an elaboration on my above point to the comment I just quoted. Its not unusual to burn through 100k fighting one cartel, especially if you lose just one ifrit you're already more than that in the hole. Only those who have beat the game so to speak can afford this price. At most a gang that fights caps in the day time will break even. Its unreasonable to expect that a gang where the richest member has only a few million dollars could stand up and repush any of todays cartel fighting gangs, and theres only about 5 as im sure you have noticed. It simply is not economically viable. We are all stacked and couldnt care less about the price of our loadouts for the rest of the time we play, and the newer gangs will go broke even if they win the fight because of how little the cap draws in. If the solution is not increasing the payout for a capture, than it has to be increasing the time a capture is on cooldown so these players have time to do their runs utilizing the cartel. you have 9 million and claim you are broke. feed the boys, mike. but in all seriousness, the newer "broke" gangs do need some incentive to fight. theres only about 2 gangs left that pretty actively fight cartels that dont give a shit about money..so i do think making the income independent of other players is a step in the right direction. it in no way will completely solve the lack of cartel fights, but it will help as it is a multi-layered issue Link to comment
NotMike Posted June 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/27/2022 at 1:44 PM, operatorjohnny^ said: you have 9 million and claim you are broke. feed the boys, mike. but in all seriousness, the newer "broke" gangs do need some incentive to fight. theres only about 2 gangs left that pretty actively fight cartels that dont give a shit about money..so i do think making the income independent of other players is a step in the right direction. it in no way will completely solve the lack of cartel fights, but it will help as it is a multi-layered issue sir i have 14 mil and i am broke as far as the side chat is concerned, stop exposing me. Link to comment
phoenix. Posted June 29, 2022 Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 I think it is possible to delete the cooling time of arms groups and drug cartels, so that they can still be robbed after being occupied, which can effectively prolong the battle and make the server active. Link to comment
NotMike Posted June 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2022 18 minutes ago, phoenix. said: I think it is possible to delete the cooling time of arms groups and drug cartels, so that they can still be robbed after being occupied, which can effectively prolong the battle and make the server active. Thats the problem nobody wants an unending battle, theres no money to be made in fighting infinitely. Link to comment
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